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Q6600 or Phenom 9850 for gaming

thedoc46

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As it says above... In the process of putting together a new rig. Both are around the same price.

Still don't know whether to go with AMD or Intel.

If I go with AMD, I'd also be getting the Lanparty DK 790FX mobo.

Intel I'm thinking the Asus P5K LGA775 mobo.

GFX is either going to be a 4850 or 4870...


Recommedations please.
 
for overclocking go for the Q6600, I recommend looking for a P45 chipset mobo as well rather than the P35
 
You say for gaming! Are you sure? If so, I would recommend you at least research the intel Wolfdale's in particular the E8400.;) It's stock clock speed is 3.0ghz and with a good motherboard you will easily get 4.0ghz.
 
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The 790fx motherboards at the moment are all still on SB600 which ruins everything. The Nivida boards are overpriced, clock well but do you really want SLI?
Until someone actually pulls their finger out and gets a GOOD 790FX motherboard out there without the dated, rubbish southbridge then the only option is Intel.
 
Emlyn_Dewar said:
The 790fx motherboards at the moment are all still on SB600 which ruins everything. The Nivida boards are overpriced, clock well but do you really want SLI?
Until someone actually pulls their finger out and gets a GOOD 790FX motherboard out there without the dated, rubbish southbridge then the only option is Intel.
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theres nothing wrong with the sb600 tbh..... msi k8a2 premium is a great motherboard...
 
Alpherah said:
going from 2.5ghz black edition phenom OC'd to 3.3Ghz to E8400 OC'd to 3.6Ghz gained me nearly 20 FPS in crysis if that helps.
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Not really as Crysis is a single game & not a benchmark for general gaming.
And thats a Dual core cpu you have & intel Quad core also lose out to Dual in the link i posted.
 
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if i remember rightly once the phenoms go over a certain amount 3 ghz or maybe more, there quicker than a same mhz q6600 due too something.there was some benchmarks about showing this where i think both were clocked at 4ghz.the phenom came out tops.it does get a little tiresome when some just say c2duo are the best by miles or would hammer this or that but when matched against a similar amd at stock theres nothing between them.yes i have compared amd against intel in machines side by side.these were all a stock though.
 
The q6600 is still the easier to clock and they are all pretty much guaranteed to reach 3.6, which is impressive, even though the new Phenoms are a huge improvement they still aren't hugely competitive - although arguably they offer better value for money.

However... AMD/ATi now give you something better - you can get an integrated solution where your cpu/gpu/mobo(+chipset) are all provided by the same manufacturer and that is starting to pay dividends. CrossfireX means your onboard gfx card will now help to improve your performance - It also scales extremely well and out-performs sli in many games.

Bottom line - if you're rebuilding from scratch there is an awful lot to think about now, and it's not as simple a "buy the q6600 dude - it pwnes everything !!!!!111four" which has become the stock answer over the last 2 years when intel were soooooo dominant!

(I'd go for the P45/e7200/8Gb/HD4870 - but I'd always wish I'd gone for a Phenom :p)
 
cavemanoc said:
The q6600 is still the easier to clock and they are all pretty much guaranteed to reach 3.6, which is impressive, even though the new Phenoms are a huge improvement they still aren't hugely competitive - although arguably they offer better value for money.
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From what i read here on this forum i would say 3.2 pretty much guaranteed on the Q6600 & not 3.6
 
gareth170 said:
theres nothing wrong with the sb600 tbh..... msi k8a2 premium is a great motherboard...
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It limits overclocks and could not be considered good, maybe it's not awful but it's heavily dated.
Once we see some new motherboards out then we'll see how much of a difference it makes to have a better southbridge.
 
Looking at the review's benchmarks it seems that AMD are catching up but still miles away from Yorkfield and coming soon Nehalem. Hopefully they have learned their lesson and would have less troublesome entrance in the 45 nm domain.
 
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