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Q6600 or Phenom 9850 for gaming
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i agree... most people say intel quad are better but people don't see that they performance about the same. some benchmarks the phenom beats the intel quad...
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I think many of the review sites are a bit grim in their clocked Phenom speed tests, you just have to look at some of the benchmark posts on XS to realise that they (the review sites) have put little work into the setup.
Having seen the extremely competitive pricing on the 9950 I'm really considering buckling soon. One of those or a 9850 if the price drops a little would do me well.
Having seen the extremely competitive pricing on the 9950 I'm really considering buckling soon. One of those or a 9850 if the price drops a little would do me well.
Does this mean Spider is actually working?
The new ones are considerably better and 3.6 is almost expected as long as the rest of your kit is good enough (The shop are guaranteeing them to 3.3Ghz so there has to be some flex in there for the brave
).Spider was a nice idea but unfortunately it was never really competitive as the original Phenoms weren't great and the 3xxx series cards were outclassed by the nVidia 8800Gtx - however - whatever they choose to call the new Phenom 9950/790FX/4870 combo is a real winner!
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the 9950 is only 100mhz more than the 9850. i can't see the point of the 9950. the 9850/9950 overclock to the same...
Whatever they call the new platform it will again be made up of the 'best' components, hence the 9950 - what the OP goes for is down to him though - AMD's pricing has been pretty good across the range so maybe it will be worth it for the extra 100mhz and the chance of slightly better silicone - won't know til we see lots of pricing
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The 9950's I've seen are cheaper than the 9850 prices on the OcUK website, a no brainer tbh. Same price but higher stock speed = win.
AMD have been working with IBM for 6 years, maybe more. IBM's 65nm is rubbish, their 45nm is going to be 5-6 months late, so it's probably giving a lot of trouble and their 32nm will bascially be a copy of Intel's 45nm. The only way for AMD to become competitive again is to get Intel to manufacture AMD's chips!
Q6600 is the way to go. Phenom isn't a horrible chip, but there isn't a single reason to buy it.
AMD have been working with IBM for 6 years, maybe more. IBM's 65nm is rubbish, their 45nm is going to be 5-6 months late, so it's probably giving a lot of trouble and their 32nm will bascially be a copy of Intel's 45nm. The only way for AMD to become competitive again is to get Intel to manufacture AMD's chips!
Q6600 is the way to go. Phenom isn't a horrible chip, but there isn't a single reason to buy it.
erm.. rrright. please come around & fit the Q6600 into my DFI LanParty UT 790FX-M2R...hello!
try to put some thought into it next time you say there is no reason because to often people like you miss the completely obvious.
And who forced you to buy that motherboard?
Well, because gains are greater from overclocking a 9850 over a 6600, I saw somewhere that once you are at 3.2Ghz and above the 9850 performs quicker than the Intel offering so nothing in it really.
You can't even say the Intel route will offer a better upgrade path since the new Intel chips are coming out on a different socket.
So you take your choices. A new AMD mobo/cpu/gfx combo does sound mighty appealing and overclocked will match a similar Intel quad overclocked setup.
To me, AMD are back in the game although only offering similar performance may be a little bit too late.
You can't even say the Intel route will offer a better upgrade path since the new Intel chips are coming out on a different socket.
So you take your choices. A new AMD mobo/cpu/gfx combo does sound mighty appealing and overclocked will match a similar Intel quad overclocked setup.
To me, AMD are back in the game although only offering similar performance may be a little bit too late.
It aint about who forced me it about what i already have so you cant just go around saying get a Q6600 assuming every one has an intel mobo and saying to anyone who does not
"who forced you to buy that motherboard?"
I prefer AMD CPU's for many reasons that im not about to repeat to every person who cant think of one.
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nobody forces people to buy motherboards. if people wanna buy amd motherboards its they choice. personly i've always prefered amd cpu's and i think amd as the best features. most people on this forum say get/buy intel, but as it stands now amd quad vs intel quad they performance about the same. also amd quads overclick just as well as the intel quad..
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some people have at XtremeSystems i think. but tbh why do u need 3.6ghz when 3.1-3.4ghz do the about same.. 200-300mhz extra u won't see the differents well only in benchmarks u will.ok this is no dig at the AMD guys here
i think people just love seeing/wanting high numbers like 3700mihz
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ok this is no dig at the AMD guys here
3.6 is not the avg for Q6600 3.2 is & this forum has loads of people who cant get 3.6 because some did nor buy the cheery picked Q6600 & assumed that because some were posting good overclocks that most will do it anyway so way pay extra.
Maybe OcUK should cherry pick some AMD's then most of us here in the forum would naturally buy them & post our avg overclocks & then claim AMD's clock to 3.7 on avg because most of us get that
here & ignore the fact that our cpus were cherry to begin with.
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