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Q6600 or the AMD Phenom 9500?

Yeah it may use all 4 cores, but whats the point if those games dont max out a dual cpu cores lets say at 3ghz. Like I said games has to make full use of both of the dual cpu cores before quad will start to overtake dual core
 
Yeah it may use all 4 cores, but whats the point if those games dont max out a dual cpu cores lets say at 3ghz. Like I said games has to make full use of both of the dual cpu cores before quad will start to overtake dual core

Quad core gaming on those two games I mention will yield higher FPS over a dual core system.


Period.
 
EDIT:show me some charts between both cpus at the same clock speed, (3ghz or over),using the same graphics card then? and if my common sense is wrong I totally hold my hands up guys. But I cant see how a quad can out perform a dual , if the dual isnt totally maxed out on both cores?? Im just using common sense.
 
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Its like Last summer when I changed my [email protected] single core cpu, to a opty [email protected] dual core cpu. because the cpu was slowing my gfx card down, and now its the other way around my cpu is a hell of a lot faster then my gfx card now Ive changed,, and Im sure in 2yrs or so I will have to upgrade my dual cpu to quad, cos the dual will be slowing up the gfx card. But theres totally no reason to change to quad for at least 2yrs maybe more, if your a gamer, cos you will see no benefit changing from dual to quad until the gfx card can max out the cpu,, then the whole cycle starts again.
 
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aren't the skulltrail chips incredibly expensive and you can't use low end normal chips?
Wrong, you can use any current or previous generation 771 cpu.

as well as its fbdimms only and dual nvidia chipset stuff that means really expensive boards too? or was it server intel chipset either way, expensive as hell.


It's the ultimate premium product, what do you expect? Dirt cheap parts and poor multi-gpu support?

but as said, phenom is more than fast enough for gaming, a cheap low power mobo with a cheap phenom clocked to 3Ghz or beyond would be really nice.
at the moment though 790fx's boards aren't blocking the phenom's well, but considering they do 350htt on x2's and 220-250htt on phenom's hopefully its more chip stepping than mobo. i can bump the multi on my fine for way more speed, pain to overclock by htt at the moment.

Why choose the inferior product though? :confused:

show me proof
If you're that bothered, why not google it?

UT3 and SupCom are the first two games that spring to mind.
 
Then you have the 8core cpus comming out next year, you wont see any improve when they come out, for 3 - 4 years later in the gamming world cos graphics cards wont need quad core to run at full tilt, let alone 8cores.... But guys you see what I mean???
 
The 8 core systems that are to come out soon are not aimed at general enthusiasts/gamers. They are aimed at people who need huge amounts of cpu power for encoding/rendering/etc.

The multi core cpus that are coming out next year are just product evolutions of current lines, everything gets quicker with each generation, they will still be aimed at the same people who bought quad cores in this generation.

I can't say exactly what will have happened in the software world over the next few years but parallel threading defiantly has a place in there somewhere.
 
I cant find bench marks of 3ghz or over both at the same speed for both cpus, and theres no point benchmarking them less then 2.8ghz, cos then of course the quad will win cos the dual cpu will be maxed out on both cores... but at the end of the day quad cannot beat dual core if the cores of the dual cpu are not maxed out,,,END OF STORY
 
I cant find bench marks of 3ghz or over both at the same speed for both cpus, and theres no point benchmarking them less then 2.8ghz, cos then of course the quad will win cos the dual cpu will be maxed out on both cores... but at the end of the day quad cannot beat dual core if the cores of the dual cpu are not maxed out,,,END OF STORY

You clearly don't get it.
 
dont get what? how is it possible for quad to overtake a game or a app if the cores are not going at full tilt, cos a quad will be running even slower then the dual, cos it wont need as much pcocessing power as the dual,, but for that app or game both cpus will be using the same amount of processing power cos the app or game dont need anymore processing power from either cput to run it?
 
You clearly don't get it.

Perhaps not, but the picture is far from black and white. True multi-core programming, in games at least, is a good few years away yet.

I will point out that writing a good multi-threaded code is far more complicated than writing a program on a single thread, and games are already pretty complex programs as it is. On a more practical level, there are communication costs to consider. Transferring data between different threads can introduce heavy latencies, and so it is often the case that you will actually lose performance by spreading an application over two or more CPUs. For the immediate future, you will see only fairly self-contained modules farmed out to other cores (like sound or perhaps physics), with the main game-logic all residing on one core.

Unfortunately, the fact of the matter is that it will take a major revision in programming languages to allow a realistic path to implementing general applications (and games specifically) which run automatically on several cores. This is a bit of bummer for us gamers, since the number of cores on a CPU will have doubled many times before then.

Yes, you may see games farming out small portions to increasing numbers of CPU cores, but the majority of game logic will continue to reside on a single CPU. The only games which will realistically see good multi-core support are large-scale strategy games, where you have thousands of fairly independent entities each performing instructions based on their local environment.

Of course, a quad core CPU is always going to be better than a dual, clock for clock, but pound-for-pound I still say dual is the way to go for gaming - particularly if you're not interested in RTSs.
 
if your worried about overclocking the quad core to good speeds, you could always get one of the ocuk guaranteed 3.3ghz quad core cpus ;)
 
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