Q6600 or upgrade

[Meaker]

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Hey ScoTTyBEEE


Ok you know have £165 from the sale of your original computer . . .


No this is flawed reasoning? . . . your new Intel® Core™ i5 upgrade cost you £350? . . . the £165 from your older parts is not monopoly money?

People don't sell their homes for £300,000 and buy a new home for £400,000 and say the new home cost them £100,000? . . . . people don't sell their car for £3,000 and buy a new car for £4,000 and say their new cars cost them £1,000

What you have done is forgotten (or made yourself forget) that your original machine had your money "invested" in it giving it "value" . . . If you had not bought any new computer parts you would now have £350 in your wallet . . . just enough to buy:

When they buy that £400,000 home though they did not need to raise £400,000 to buy it did they? Only the £100,000 difference + fees.

To say it was an option to sell the £300,000 house and have no house at all is silly.

Also their assets have increased.

 

[ScoTTyBEEE]

You will have to give some benchmarks and idea as to how much of a step up it is for you

Sitting on a Q6600 myself and have the upgrade itch.

Look at how much it costs and think of the resale value. Your computer parts won't hold a value which I consider to be more than they are worth forever.

It's quicker in all aspects, not by much, but in the grand scheme of things I didn't spend much.

 

[SpriteAlpha]

I too am curious of any noticable difference you've experienced with your upgrade. I have a very similar setup to what you had - Q6600 overclocked to 3.38 with an IP35 Pro. Upgrading has crossed my mind, but I can't imagine any significant improvement given I use my PC for casual tasks and a lot of gaming. I'm thinking the only thing where I might see an increase is in FSX as that's CPU intensive so maybe an i7 4+Ghz would make it run better.
Anyway, any thoughts you have on your upgrade performance wise would be appreciated.

 

[ScoTTyBEEE]

I upgraded to a faster SSD drive (from a slower SSD) at the same time, so my results could be a little skewed with that. The performance increase isn't massive as it's not a particularly big jump up.

The way I see it is, you can wait for sandybridge, and pay full whack for new technology and then sell what you have for less because there will be lots of i5/i7 kits on ebay.

Or you can get this now because it's good value for money, super fast and in a year or so time sell it, and get sandybridge when the prices have come down and get a good price for this kit because it's only 1 generation old.

All in I expect this upgrade to last at least a year and cost me less due to the resale value. If it doesn't have a great resale value I don't really care anyway because the cost of the upgrade was so low.

 

[SpriteAlpha]

Yeah, I've been thinking along similar lines. I see myself upgrading to Ivy Bridge (and probably not as soon as released, but after it has been on the market a few months) as opposed to Sandy Bridge, and so we're most likely looking at 2012 now. I don't think I can wait that long for an upgrade

 

[WingZero30]

Yeah, I've been thinking along similar lines. I see myself upgrading to Ivy Bridge (and probably not as soon as released, but after it has been on the market a few months) as opposed to Sandy Bridge, and so we're most likely looking at 2012 now. I don't think I can wait that long for an upgrade

I just bought 2nd hand Q6600 from Ocuk mm and I intend to use it for atleast 4 years. It does everything comfortably . So in my case probably looking even beyond Ivy Bridge for upgrade

 

[SpriteAlpha]

I just bought 2nd hand Q6600 from Ocuk mm and I intend to use it for atleast 4 years. It does everything comfortably . So in my case probably looking even beyond Ivy Bridge for upgrade

You are a man with patience and self-control. I am lacking a lot in the former

 

[steve258]

The way i see it, the only cost you recoup is the original cost of the sold components, so for example:

Q6600 - bought for 140 sold for 80
Abit ip35 pro - bought for 100 sold for 35
8gb ram - bought for 120 sold for 100

Money lost 145 + 350 for i5 setup = 495 quid total cost to change.

Now say you manage to sell your i5 combo for 200. The accumulated cost to upgrade to sandy would be 295 + whatever the new parts cost.

 

[ahenners]

I have been itching to upgrade my current system (in sig) but I really don't see a point given the costs. I play at 1920 x 1080 and can run virtually anything on full or almost full so might as well wait until I no longer can and then upgrade.

 

[SpriteAlpha]

I have been itching to upgrade my current system (in sig) but I really don't see a point given the costs. I play at 1920 x 1080 and can run virtually anything on full or almost full so might as well wait until I no longer can and then upgrade.

It depends what you do with your system. Do you just game? Do you play FSX? The latter was enough of a reason to convince me to start upgrading. If you don't, and just mainly game, a better CPU than the one you have really won't make a difference at your res.

 

[ahenners]

It depends what you do with your system. Do you just game? Do you play FSX? The latter was enough of a reason to convince me to start upgrading. If you don't, and just mainly game, a better CPU than the one you have really won't make a difference at your res.

Mainly game, media playback, photoshop/image processing. Have dabbled in a bit of FSX before and its still installed but havent been on for a while. Between Black Ops, New Vegas, Football Manager, Uni and Work I don't get much time to enjoy FSX lol.

I know what you mean about FSX convincing you to upgrade though, I'd imagine a new top end setup would make a big, noticeable difference in that rather than the average new game.

 

[SpriteAlpha]

An i7 will noticeably help with image processing I believe. But with gaming, you're unlikely to see a noticeable difference. Games today at higher res' like yours are very gpu dependent. I admit FSX is a different beast, but it's a rare beast.
So: If you want to improve your image processing performance, an i7 will help, and if you want to improve your gaming performance, a new graphics card will help.

 

[Big.Wayne]

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When they buy that £400,000 home though they did not need to raise £400,000 to buy it did they? Only the £100,000 difference + fees.

We are not discussing how much money needs to be "raised"? . . . we are discussing the "cost"

To say it was an option to sell the £300,000 house and have no house at all is silly.

Not at all? . . . the point is if ScoTTyBEEE had sold his older parts and "theoretically" not purchased new parts he would indeed have £350 . . . this £350 could have been used for any number of purchases but he decided to buy a Intel® Core™ i5 upgrade which "cost" him £350 . . .

"my upgrade cost £185" #13

Also their assets have increased.

Somebody parts with a sum of their cash £££ and invests it into assets and you felt the need to highlight the fact "their assets have increased"

 

[Big.Wayne]

Hey Andy

I have been itching to upgrade my current system

• Q6600 @ 3.42ghz
• P5Q Pro
• 4GB DDR2

If Intel stop production of socket LGA 775 Quad Cores the "value" of your chip will rise . . . this is due to the fact there will be a lot of folk out there (beyond the realm of OcUK forums) still running an older DualCore system looking for a Quad-Core upgrade . . . the same can be said about your motherboard, if Intel stop production of socket LGA 775 chipsets as there will be people out there with a nice LGA 775 QuadCore system that meets their needs perfectly but perhaps develops a faulty motherboard and they need a replacement . . . as long as yours is fully working, good condition and comes with box, manual and driver disks it will command a good price . . .

and lastly your DDR2 memory is proving a very good investement as its "value" has already exceeded DDR3 . . . if you can sit on it for long enough without any inconvenience to your system useage then its eventual resale value will mean you can buy double the amount of DDR3 running twice as fast . . . i.e a 4GB kit of DDR2-800 will fetch enough resale funds to purchase an 8GB kit of DDR3-1600!

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I currently have a Q6600 and don't intend to upgrade(if possible) until Intel Sandy Bridge and AMD Bulldozer are released in the next year. The current processors under £150 are not big enough of an upgrade for gaming IMHO.

 

[SpriteAlpha]

Hey Andy



If Intel stop production of socket LGA 775 Quad Cores the "value" of your chip will rise . . . this is due to the fact there will be a lot of folk out there (beyond the realm of OcUK forums) still running an older DualCore system looking for a Quad-Core upgrade . . . the same can be said about your motherboard, if Intel stop production of socket LGA 775 chipsets as there will be people out there with a nice LGA 775 QuadCore system that meets their needs perfectly but perhaps develops a faulty motherboard and they need a replacement . . . as long as yours is fully working, good condition and comes with box, manual and driver disks it will command a good price . . .

and lastly your DDR2 memory is proving a very good investement as its "value" has already exceeded DDR3 . . . if you can sit on it for long enough without any inconvenience to your system useage then its eventual resale value will mean you can buy double the amount of DDR3 running twice as fast . . . i.e a 4GB kit of DDR2-800 will fetch enough resale funds to purchase an 8GB kit of DDR3-1600!

You really think the value of those components are going to rise in the future? Hasn't this happened before with older tech? I'm asking because if this really is the case, I will hold off selling mine.

 

[ahenners]

Hey Andy



If Intel stop production of socket LGA 775 Quad Cores the "value" of your chip will rise . . . this is due to the fact there will be a lot of folk out there (beyond the realm of OcUK forums) still running an older DualCore system looking for a Quad-Core upgrade . . . the same can be said about your motherboard, if Intel stop production of socket LGA 775 chipsets as there will be people out there with a nice LGA 775 QuadCore system that meets their needs perfectly but perhaps develops a faulty motherboard and they need a replacement . . . as long as yours is fully working, good condition and comes with box, manual and driver disks it will command a good price . . .

and lastly your DDR2 memory is proving a very good investement as its "value" has already exceeded DDR3 . . . if you can sit on it for long enough without any inconvenience to your system useage then its eventual resale value will mean you can buy double the amount of DDR3 running twice as fast . . . i.e a 4GB kit of DDR2-800 will fetch enough resale funds to purchase an 8GB kit of DDR3-1600!

Thanks, thats an interesting perspective and hopefully things will pan out like that Wayne. I have a 4gb kit of DDR2-1066 so hopefully it will be worth even more than a 4gb set of DDR-800

 

[Meaker]

The way i see it, the only cost you recoup is the original cost of the sold components, so for example:

Q6600 - bought for 140 sold for 80
Abit ip35 pro - bought for 100 sold for 35
8gb ram - bought for 120 sold for 100

Money lost 145 + 350 for i5 setup = 495 quid total cost to change.

Now say you manage to sell your i5 combo for 200. The accumulated cost to upgrade to sandy would be 295 + whatever the new parts cost.

Depreciation though. Parts naturally loose value over time even if you keep them.

 

[Meaker]

I sold my athlon xp mobile for more than i bought it 2 years later.

 

[ozzyDe]

how dose a AMD Phenom II X6 Six Core 1090T Black Edition 3.20GHz (Socket AM3) stand up to a q6600 is an AMD setup a better option to a Intel Core i7 930 2.80GHz (Bloomfield) (Socket LGA1366) because this itch is getting hard to scratch and I just dont no what the hell to go with.
If Iwas going to keep my Q6600 system for other things then would the AMD *6
be any faster than intel.
OK £380 to spend on cpu/mem/MB what to get?