Q6700 temp question

[Cap]

Hey, sorry I know these are posted a lot - but I really dont have a lot of knowledge regarding PC hardware in general.

I currently have a Q6700 @ 3.33ghz, Idle I have 43, 34, 39, 37 °C. Which I think are alittle high maybe?

The most demanding thing the PC is used for is gaming. Ive checked the high temps whilst playing a few different games (BHD, COD4, MW2, BFBC2). Whilst playing BFBC2 on med settings I get 62, 54, 59, 57

Now Im pretty worried that those temps are far too high - Ive read that anything approaching 75 is pretty bad and will start to cause some damage.

As the summer coming its only going to get worse, Any advice or suggestions would be much appreciated.

 

[setter]

Those load temps are fine for gaming, though it wouldnt do any harm to reapply some new paste to your cooler, and make sure it's seated correctly. What cooler are you using btw?

 

[cmndr_andi]

What cooler are you using? Is it just the stock intel one?

If so, then you really want to upgrade the cooling if you want a decent overclock and not cook your chip. This would be my suggestion - an excellent cooler at a good price.

You should also test the overclock is stable with a stress test program like OCCT. However, with your current overclock (and presumed cooling) I wouldn't suggest running this yet - as it will likely get your chip too hot to be safe or fail to complete the test.

 

[Justintime]

Hey, sorry I know these are posted a lot - but I really dont have a lot of knowledge regarding PC hardware in general.

I currently have a Q6700 @ 3.33ghz, Idle I have 43, 34, 39, 37 °C. Which I think are alittle high maybe?

The most demanding thing the PC is used for is gaming. Ive checked the high temps whilst playing a few different games (BHD, COD4, MW2, BFBC2). Whilst playing BFBC2 on med settings I get 62, 54, 59, 57

Now Im pretty worried that those temps are far too high - Ive read that anything approaching 75 is pretty bad and will start to cause some damage.

As the summer coming its only going to get worse, Any advice or suggestions would be much appreciated.

Try intel burntest on max to see how hot you can get. As for 75C being too high? Absolute joke. I've seen stock OEM core 2 computers idling at 50+C and loading at 80+ daily for years with no ill effects, 75C will not cause damage to your cpu, people are just trained to look at temps the way they used to when it was being read off the motherboard sensor and not from the core, 75C from the core might read off like 64C from a motherboard sensor as by the time the heat gets there its lost some oomph. Also when people throw about Tcase max numbers as the temperature to keep under it cracks me up, thats the temp of the heatspreader and not core, same temp your mobo sensor might read which is lower than if read from the core sensors itself. Your temps look fine mate.

 

[Cap]

Thanks for the quick replies.

I actually bought prebuilt from OC (thats how little I know) about a year ago now. At the time it was called the Titan Napalm. So in all honestly I wouldnt know what cooler Im using - Id have to check.

I'll have a look into applying paste, would adding a side fan be of any use?

But its good to know they arent that bad - Ive not experienced any problems at all whilst gaming or anything, just saw the temps getting alittle higher than what Ive noticed before.

Thanks

 

[NAM_killer]

Try intel burntest on max to see how hot you can get. As for 75C being too high? Absolute joke. I've seen stock OEM core 2 computers idling at 50+C and loading at 80+ daily for years with no ill effects, 75C will not cause damage to your cpu, people are just trained to look at temps the way they used to when it was being read off the motherboard sensor and not from the core, 75C from the core might read off like 64C from a motherboard sensor as by the time the heat gets there its lost some oomph. Also when people throw about Tcase max numbers as the temperature to keep under it cracks me up, thats the temp of the heatspreader and not core, same temp your mobo sensor might read which is lower than if read from the core sensors itself. Your temps look fine mate.

The temps he has given look a little higher than they could be but will be safe to run at.

The Q6600 has an absolute max temperature of 71c and should never be pushed above that unless you want to damage your chip. The max is there for a reason and it is common knowledge that the closer you get to it, the lower the lifespan of the chip.

I would recommend to reseat the cooler with fresh thermal paste but summer is rolling in and that will have an effect on chips aswell, we can already see how much it affects them over here and it hasn't even really hit yet

 

[Justintime]

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The Q6600 has an absolute max temperature of 71c and should never be pushed above that unless you want to damage your chip. The max is there for a reason and it is common knowledge that the closer you get to it, the lower the lifespan of the chip.

Thats tcase max as measured externally, not the core temperature, the maximum coretemps will be around 10-15C higher . Going by the fact many here go past 70 without issue for years so far overclocked and Intels stock cooler can push it past that at default vcore and clock i'd say there'd be a lot more dead Q6600s if this 72C figure was right. Tjunction max dosen't even kick in until 95-100c core temp. My rule is about 20C away from Tjunction to be safe and leave headroom, i don't even look at temps just the distance from Tjmax.

This one again,

Cav the 72C temp is the max temp the IHS can reach, NOT the temps core temp reports.

G0 Q6700's dont throttle at 72C, its more like 100 before they throttle, and 120 before they go into halt state.

Core temp and other measureing programs are making a Guess on the cpu core's actual temperature based on a negative delta from the throttle point. IE if the chips throttle point is 100C, and its a G0 Q6700, the chips sensor would read -35C for a guestimate of +65C. The reason its a guess is because intel keep changing the throttle point, and its even possible that it varies from batch to batch, so it at best a "good guess". In general though the delta is believed to be consistant between steppings, so all G0's for example, be they Q6600, Q6700 etc "should" have a 100C reference point.

I've had my cpu up to the mid 80's when I was testing out how low I could safely go with the cooling fan speeds, and I assure you there was no throttling.

I am pretty sure that the 72C throttle point applied to the Northwood generation Pentium IV's. Intel chips since then have a higher throttle. Its nothing to worry about though, old Nvidia chips used to wait until 120C before they would start to throttle.

etc.. etc..

 

[NAM_killer]

Oh my god I cannot believe I did not see that it said TCase max in the intel whitepaper!

What a silly mistake haha

To be honest though, cooler temps are always better so if it is getting hotter than before, try air dusting the heatsink and re-applying fresh thermal compound, that should do the trick!

 

[Justintime]

Oh my god I cannot believe I did not see that it said TCase max in the intel whitepaper!

See, now you can turn those fans down a little