QD OLED questions

[smogsy]

Hey,

i'm very tempted to it the buy button on Odyssey OLED G8 G85SB, (coming from a cx48" which is too tall to read top of the screen nicely.)

1. Excluding gaming due to the different sub-pixel arrangement do you think you could read/text & code for 8 hours straight?
2. 99.9% going to buy 2 of these one above the over, (angled down) top screen for working monitoring/chats etc. do you think you could see that nicely at that angle
3. whats it like in brightroom?

I will be using this monitor for 80% WFH & 20% gaming (Work on Mac, Gaming on Windows)

I've discounted the Alienware for 2 reasons
1. noise, very noise sensitive & can hear a pin drop in my workspace
2. seems to be a lot off issues right now with firmware/HDR etc
3. i'm seeing in reviews with returns as just want to buy & be done with it.

 

[jwilliamson47]

Not sure if an OLED is the best idea if you're doing productivity for the most part. If it was 80% gaming and 20% productivity then it would be perfect.

 

[smogsy]

Not had any issues with my current OLED with same workflow, which I do the same with (had this since the launch in 2021), not at all worried about burn-in as i ll swap these every few years anyway its more text clarity

 

[no_1_dave]

1. Excluding gaming due to the different sub-pixel arrangement do you think you could read/text & code for 8 hours straight?

Some people are more sensitive to it than others. I for example can not tell the difference between text on this monitor compared to my old IPS monitor. I only see fringing if I put my face right up to the monitor and look for it. Some people say they notice it so use alternatives to ClearType to fix it as some alternatives have updates to include this sub-pixel arrangement already. Then there are some people who outright can't stand it so won't use QD-OLED.

So yea, it's subjective and you'd need to try it to know which category you fall into

 

[smogsy]

Some people are more sensitive to it than others. I for example can not tell the difference between text on this monitor compared to my old IPS monitor. I only see fringing if I put my face right up to the monitor and look for it. Some people say they notice it so use alternatives to ClearType to fix it as some alternatives have updates to include this sub-pixel arrangement already. Then there are some people who outright can't stand it so won't use QD-OLED.

So yea, it's subjective and you'd need to try it to know which category you fall into

thanks,
how far away do YOU need to be not to see it?
whats it like in bright room?

 

[no_1_dave]

thanks,
how far away do YOU need to be not to see it?
whats it like in bright room?

I sit about 45cm from my monitor and I can't see any fringing at this distance. Like I said, I need to put my face up to the monitor to notice it, literally up to the monitor.
Bright room is fine, my curtains are open all day and it still looks better than any other monitor I've owned. Obviously it's best in the dark, but the standard SDR brightness is plenty for daily usage in a bright room

 

[smogsy]

much appericated.

 

[mrk]

Hey,

i'm very tempted to it the buy button on Odyssey OLED G8 G85SB, (coming from a cx48" which is too tall to read top of the screen nicely.)

1. Excluding gaming due to the different sub-pixel arrangement do you think you could read/text & code for 8 hours straight?
2. 99.9% going to buy 2 of these one above the over, (angled down) top screen for working monitoring/chats etc. do you think you could see that nicely at that angle
3. whats it like in brightroom?

I will be using this monitor for 80% WFH & 20% gaming (Work on Mac, Gaming on Windows)

I've discounted the Alienware for 2 reasons
1. noise, very noise sensitive & can hear a pin drop in my workspace
2. seems to be a lot off issues right now with firmware/HDR etc
3. i'm seeing in reviews with returns as just want to buy & be done with it.

I do more productivity and WFH using my AW3423DW than gaming as a reference point. It is my only monitor and used for everything.

1: Text is fine, use the BetterClearTypeTuner utility to enable RGB arrangement with a 2200 contrast. Text will be fine after that.
2: They are curved, so in my view this would not look good when stacked one above the other as you end up with a gap in the middle from the curve.
3: No problems at all in a bright room. Just like any screen with a glossy surface, avoid sitting right behind a window or strong light source. Bounced reflections aren't an issue as the AG coating does a fine job at reducing their luminosity.

Also:
1: I have sensitive hearing too and hear things most people can't, the fan is audible in a quiet room, but it's an ambient hum 90% of the time and becomes part of the room's ambience. 10% of the time is "breathes" as described in the thread previously by many people. It only lasts a few minutes.
2: The issues are related to the DWF version not the DW
3: Didn't get a word of that, translation needed

 

[smogsy]

I do more productivity and WFH using my AW3423DW than gaming as a reference point. It is my only monitor and used for everything.

1: Text is fine, use the BetterClearTypeTuner utility to enable RGB arrangement with a 2200 contrast. Text will be fine after that.
2: They are curved, so in my view this would not look good when stacked one above the other as you end up with a gap in the middle from the curve.
3: No problems at all in a bright room. Just like any screen with a glossy surface, avoid sitting right behind a window or strong light source. Bounced reflections aren't an issue as the AG coating does a fine job at reducing their luminosity.

Also:
1: I have sensitive hearing too and hear things most people can't, the fan is audible in a quiet room, but it's an ambient hum 90% of the time and becomes part of the room's ambience. 10% of the time is "breathes" as described in the thread previously by many people. It only lasts a few minutes.
2: The issues are related to the DWF version not the DW
3: Didn't get a word of that, translation needed

thanks for feedback,
was typing to fast for my brain


2. good point, indeed they would have to be angled at the same angle to be decent. good shout! < might be sucky
3. Yeh right opposite a very large window, which sucks one thing i hate about the CX is the full light bounce (another reason for samsung seems to have semi gloss s full gloss)

discounting Q
3. seeing lot of returns from Alienware owners, one guy on reddit has gone through 6 of them not to have issues

Regarding text @mrk you have a mac as well do you not? I only do productivity on mac, wondering if the Text issue is still present on OSX, not found a source for this info yet

 

[mrk]

No Apple devices here, but I believe text rending options on Mac is better than on Windows, so you may find it's tunable natively whereas on Windows you need to use that utility.

Can't speak for returns though, this is my third one, the 1st was replaced due to the screen marks from packaging, and the 2nd must have had a firmware bug where pixel refresh wasn't working properly as I had screen burn after a couple of months. This one is a year or so on and no issues yet.

 

[smogsy]

yeh read of lot of returns due to bad packaging all fixed by a good cover :/

 

[SpellowHouse]

Hey,

i'm very tempted to it the buy button on Odyssey OLED G8 G85SB, (coming from a cx48" which is too tall to read top of the screen nicely.)

1. Excluding gaming due to the different sub-pixel arrangement do you think you could read/text & code for 8 hours straight?
2. 99.9% going to buy 2 of these one above the over, (angled down) top screen for working monitoring/chats etc. do you think you could see that nicely at that angle
3. whats it like in brightroom?

I will be using this monitor for 80% WFH & 20% gaming (Work on Mac, Gaming on Windows)

I've discounted the Alienware for 2 reasons
1. noise, very noise sensitive & can hear a pin drop in my workspace
2. seems to be a lot off issues right now with firmware/HDR etc
3. i'm seeing in reviews with returns as just want to buy & be done with it.

1. There is a fix for the text issue that mostly works.

qd-oled Text Rendering

I thought I would start a topic for this, to bring together what we know... All monitors have a sub-pixel layout that can be visible as colour fringing around text. Sub-pixel layouts are compensated for by text renderers that are in Windows and other applications. They adjust the color or...

forums.overclockers.co.uk

2. Yes. They have a wide vertical viewing angle.

3. They are not the brightest monitors so I am not sure whether they would be suitable for a bright room or not.


1. I have a AW3423DW and I can't hear it at all. But I will concede that having the PSU inside the monitor means it's a bit of a whine lottery.

2. I don't agree there are lots of issues, I just think people are very wary about spending £900 on a monitor. Whether you go for the DW or DWF probably comes down to whether you want to use HDR400 or HDR1000.

3. Sad fact is that all monitors seem to have a fairly large number of returns. And of course that's all you are going to hear about on a forum.

 

[VortexA1]

yeh read of lot of returns due to bad packaging all fixed by a good cover :/

I received my Dell Alienware OLED yesterday, the screen was covered and didn't have any marks. i have no issues with the QA, very happy. I currently am not aware of the fan noise on it either I rarely have the room in complete silence, but when it's on it must be very quiet cos I'm not aware of it at all.

 

[cuke2u]

thanks,
how far away do YOU need to be not to see it?
whats it like in bright room?

I spend my day supporting schools remotely as an IT Technician so quite a a lot of my time is in windows 11. Never noticed any fringing at all and find the text easy to read, I have my G8 about two feet away from me. I think those who can 'see' the fringing must have their noses pressed against the screen

 

[SpellowHouse]

thanks,
how far away do YOU need to be not to see it?

To me, the most important thing is whether you use Windows Light or Dark settings. The fringing is not particulatly noticeable with Light. But with Dark, ie light text on a darker backround, I think it is very noticeable indeed. Having said that, it seems to be a Marmite situation - some people don't notice it at all, others can't stop noticing it. I have to say that I am one of the latter. I find it very distracting. It's only because I use a separate monitor for work stuff that I am perfectly happy. But then, the mactype solution is very good but of course can't be used for multiple monitors unless they are all the same sub-pixel layout.

 

[Haggisman]

1. Excluding gaming due to the different sub-pixel arrangement do you think you could read/text & code for 8 hours straight?

I use mine for this, and no complaints here. It's maybe not quite as sharp as the nano-IPS I had before, but the difference is marginal and certainly nothing that renders it unusable.

2. 99.9% going to buy 2 of these one above the over, (angled down) top screen for working monitoring/chats etc. do you think you could see that nicely at that angle

Viewing angles are superb due to the fact it's OLED (far superior to any other panel tech), however as @mrk points out, due to the curve it might be a bit strange having it angled down with a huge gap above the lower monitor.

3. whats it like in brightroom?

No issues here - you will notice that blacks are more "grey" when the light hits it due to the AR coating, and might get some reddish-purple hue to some greys, but again it's nothing which will render it unusable

I will be using this monitor for 80% WFH & 20% gaming (Work on Mac, Gaming on Windows)

I've discounted the Alienware for 2 reasons
1. noise, very noise sensitive & can hear a pin drop in my workspace

As others have mentioned, noise is very subjective. I find the normal fan inaudible, however the occasional "breathing" is definitely distracting when I didn't have my headphones on, so is certainly something to consider. It's not such an issue for me as I almost always have either music playing or game audio when using my PC, but if you prefer quiet then possibly a deal-breaker.

2. seems to be a lot off issues right now with firmware/HDR etc

The DW (GSync version) firmware & HDR is absolutely fine. There were a couple of very minor bugs in the original version of the firmware - it would incorrectly show HDR400 when in HDR1000 mode, iirc it didn't calculate the time correctly when determining a panel refresh was needed, and I encountered an issue with the AlienFX lighting not applying settings correctly, but as far as I can tell these have all been resolved in the latest firmware versions.

The DWF (Freesync version) has had quite a few problems around HDR, but I think these have also been resolved now? Bear in mind the DW firmware is NOT user upgradeable, whereas the DWF firmware IS, so any bugs with the Freesync version can be fixed by downloading a new firmware, whereas with the GSync it needs an RMA.

3. i'm seeing in reviews with returns as just want to buy & be done with it.

Yeah, there have been some issues with them, I'm on my 2nd* DW, and I know a few other people have had problems, particularly in the earlier batches. However, bear in mind that QD-OLED is still very much in its infancy, so there are bound to be some early-adopter type problems, as with any new tech. Dell's CS/warranty support is fantastic, and I've had no issues getting the replacements sent out, which brings me on to:

I've discounted the Alienware for 2 reasons

If you're set on a QD-OLED, then I'd reconsider that, purely because the 3 year burn-in warranty is definitely peace of mind, I'm not sure if any of the other models include the same cover, but even if so, I wouldn't trust Samsung's warranty for anything, and while I've not dealt with MSI for warranty support, I've had nothing but positive experiences with Dell.

However, with all of the above taken into account:

I will be using this monitor for 80% WFH & 20% gaming (Work on Mac, Gaming on Windows)

I'm not sure if QD-OLED is the best option in this case. I use mine around 50/50 WFH and gaming, and while it does excel on the gaming side, it's definitely not optimal for work. A decent 4k (or 3840x1600) IPS/nano-IPS would likely be a more useable option, without any of the downsides of QD-OLED (e.g. the pixel layout and risk of burn-in). I do miss the resolution & crispness of my previous AW3821DW when working - that is all forgotten when I fire up a game, but if that was only a rare occurrence then I think I would likely have stayed with the 38".




*The first had a dead pixel, request a replacement which also had a dead pixel, so kept the original. A couple of months ago it developed a faded line down one side, so it was then replaced - current one has no issues *touch wood*

 

[nalla]

wouldn't it be easier just to have text in windowed mode not full screen on the cx so you don't have to read to the top, as your going to sacrifice height anyway with the g8, so you will not be losing any real estate, personally don't have that problem with my cx.

 

[smogsy]

I'm not sure if QD-OLED is the best option in this case. I use mine around 50/50 WFH and gaming, and while it does excel on the gaming side, it's definitely not optimal for work. A decent 4k (or 3840x1600) IPS/nano-IPS would likely be a more useable option, without any of the downsides of QD-OLED (e.g. the pixel layout and risk of burn-in). I do miss the resolution & crispness of my previous AW3821DW when working - that is all forgotten when I fire up a game, but if that was only a rare occurrence then I think I would likely have stayed with the 38".

cheers for input,
im considering the new Samsung 49' which is just OLED (5120x1440) too, which will give best of both Gaming & text clarity, i have 0 fears of burn in, been using this lg for 2 years with very much static objects with no signs of any burn in, but i do run brightness at 30% just due to how bright it is

wouldn't it be easier just to have text in windowed mode not full screen on the cx so you don't have to read to the top, as your going to sacrifice height anyway with the g8, so you will not be losing any real estate, personally don't have that problem with my cx.

i did consider that, & have tried that, but when your muti tasking quickly getting windows 80% height all the time is annoying although could automate that with moom it doesnt help how close i am either im literally at arms length touching the screen if i was slighty further back that would help too. hence curved would be ideal.
currently running 4K + 2x27" be nice to reduce monitors by going 2x UW oir 1x large UW

 

[SpellowHouse]

cheers for input,
im considering the new Samsung 49' which is just OLED (5120x1440) too, which will give best of both Gaming & text clarity, i have 0 fears of burn in, been using this lg for 2 years with very much static objects with no signs of any burn in, but i do run brightness at 30% just due to how bright it is


i did consider that, & have tried that, but when your muti tasking quickly getting windows 80% height all the time is annoying although could automate that with moom it doesnt help how close i am either im literally at arms length touching the screen if i was slighty further back that would help too. hence curved would be ideal.
currently running 4K + 2x27" be nice to reduce monitors by going 2x UW oir 1x large UW

I only use the AW3423DWF for gaming. I know some people say they don't have issue with the fringing, but I certainly do, I think because I run Windows in Dark Mode. I have a AW3821DW and I use that for normal browsing, work, etc.
It's a bit expensive just for gaming, but HDR on the AW3423DWF is so much better. Games are so much more fun. The AW3821DW, like all LCD, doesn't have the contrast, even though it's actually brighter. Unless you actually need the contrast or the quality of colour from the F, then the AW3821DW is a much better "business" monitor. And you don't have to worry about burn-in either.

 

[Capitano]

are there any upcoming 34" QD OLED ultrawides coming out with a refresh rate of 144hz or higher? I saw the samsung G8, but its miniports are very annoying and would like to avoid that
I used my friends QD OLED alienware and my god it looked beautiful I dont think I can go back to regular LED even after such a brief time of using it