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Quad Core

experience said:
the quad core is infact not a quad core. It is a psuedo quad core which other than benchmarks ie sisoft sandra, actually under performs compared to an x6800 extreme dual core. In gaming etc the x6800 xtreme destroys the quad core. The quad core will be useful when desktop apps that can utilise them actually appear. However the first genuine quad core will be AMD early next year. The chip of choice for the moment is without doubt x6800 xtreme dual core - the fastest you can buy as a consumer.

Yes, get core2duo chips.
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Have you looked at the Fritz chess benchmark thread.

My quad,running at 3.6ghz destroys dual core conroes running at 4ghz + by over 2000 points.

I have a higher 06 mark score than ever before due to my quad.

And encoding is insanely fast.

So stop talking carp lol :D
 
in a game that only utilised the power of 1 core the X6800 with its clock speed of 2.99gig would get marginally better performance than a 2.66gig clocked quad core so his comments aren't entirely baseless... even at identical clocks the overheads of being a quad core could result in slightly slower performance in games that don't make use of more than 1 core... in most cases tho the quad core is gonna destroy an x6800.
 
Rroff said:
in a game that only utilised the power of 1 core the X6800 with its clock speed of 2.99gig would get marginally better performance than a 2.66gig clocked quad core so his comments aren't entirely baseless... even at identical clocks the overheads of being a quad core could result in slightly slower performance in games that don't make use of more than 1 core... in most cases tho the quad core is gonna destroy an x6800.
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An unbiased yet informed post. These are becoming rare these days...
 
2.4GHz "Conroe" Dual Core is £210 and is approximately 6 months old.

2.66GHz "Kentsfield" Quad Core is £640 and is brand new.

In 6 months time the E6600 will be be around £120 and the Kentsfield will be around the £200 mark.

The smart thing to do, in my opinion, is to get the E6600, then sell it in 6 months time for a small loss, and get a quad core.

There's no such thing as "future proof" in this game but that's an excellent upgrade path.
 
Ok i dont see what the problem is here.

I just don`t fancy splashing my cash on something that is inherently flawed at design level, anything that was having problems with cache sync and still is after release is a worry. If processor A of core-pair X needs something from the cache of core-pair Y, it has to go out to memory.This prob ain`t gonna go away until Intel produce a true, 4 cores on one die solution. I also don`t think that AMD`s solution is any better. The reason the X6800 was such a good chip is because Intel did`nt have to hurry whereas the quad cores from both sides have been rushed hence Intel`s "glue it together" solution and AMD`s power hungry, toasty and plageristic response. If however you are going to be doing a lot of graphical design or rendering and have apps that can use all four cores put up with the twitches and go quad, tell us how great it is and make me wish I would buy one instead of a X6800.

P.S remember kids, it also depends on what you run with it. The new boards for quads are based on 680i chipsets which were quickly designed to replace the somewhat flighty NF5 boards, so bide yer time for a while and let other people take the risk for a month, then decide.
 
experience said:
P.S remember kids, it also depends on what you run with it. The new boards for quads are based on 680i chipsets which were quickly designed to replace the somewhat flighty NF5 boards, so bide yer time for a while and let other people take the risk for a month, then decide.
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my aging DFI Infinity 975X will use an intel quad core fine with the lates BIOS.
 
I agree that spending a lot of money right now on a new and far from optimal quad core design, when an E6600 clocked to 3gig will provide more performance than most GPUs (except maybe 8800 SLI) can handle at any decent res, is silly...
 
experience said:
P.S remember kids, it also depends on what you run with it. The new boards for quads are based on 680i chipsets which were quickly designed to replace the somewhat flighty NF5 boards, so bide yer time for a while and let other people take the risk for a month, then decide.
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965/975/950i/680i/RD600


all support quad core

please stop spouting carp. :D
 
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Rroff said:
I agree that spending a lot of money right now on a new and far from optimal quad core design, when an E6600 clocked to 3gig will provide more performance than most GPUs (except maybe 8800 SLI) can handle at any decent res, is silly...
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Spending a lot of money one a quad-core may be silly for people who won't make use of it right now, but spending an equal amount on an X6800 is just stupid imo.
 
kablooey said:
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Spending a lot of money one a quad-core may be silly for people who won't make use of it right now, but spending an equal amount on an X6800 is just stupid imo.
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Agreed,

why go and spend that amount on a x6800

when a 6300 will do 3.4ghz + and it costs 115 quid!
 
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4mb level 2 cache instead of the 6300s 2 mb, multiplier unlocked upwards as well as down whereas all other C2Ds unlock downwards only hence mine running at 3.6 GHz and oh yeah, anyone getting a 1.6GHz clock on air is bloody lying and thats all there is to it unless hes got hold of an engineering sample or something.
 
lol! I don't mean to be unkind... but you don't know very much about conroes... the E6300 does a 1.6gig overclock on air fairly easily...
 
davejuk said:
2.4GHz "Conroe" Dual Core is £210 and is approximately 6 months old.

2.66GHz "Kentsfield" Quad Core is £640 and is brand new.

In 6 months time the E6600 will be be around £120 and the Kentsfield will be around the £200 mark.

The smart thing to do, in my opinion, is to get the E6600, then sell it in 6 months time for a small loss, and get a quad core.

There's no such thing as "future proof" in this game but that's an excellent upgrade path.
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seems like a plan to me
 
experience said:
4mb level 2 cache instead of the 6300s 2 mb, multiplier unlocked upwards as well as down whereas all other C2Ds unlock downwards only hence mine running at 3.6 GHz and oh yeah, anyone getting a 1.6GHz clock on air is bloody lying and thats all there is to it unless hes got hold of an engineering sample or something.
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on air my e6600 does 3.5ghz 24/7 stable with stock volts and 3.7 with only 1.39v.

and this chip isn't robinson crusoe!

you're misinformed and your x6800 is at least £400 overpriced if you're going to overclock anyway.
 
The debates again!

I have a X6800 and I'm happy with it.

At the end of the day, if you have the money, go for it.

Who cares what people say, you have the premium processor.

I'm tempted to buy QX. But I'm waiting for a higher clocked quad core to come out.
 
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