Quantum mavity

Biohazard · 7 Nov 2009 at 11:00

I never done GCSE's so no.

dangerstat · 7 Nov 2009 at 11:04

Cosimo · 7 Nov 2009 at 11:15

Mr-White said:
Did no one else do this at GCSE ?

No.

LOL Quantum mechanics for 15 -16 year olds, I can just see them studying that paper for their science GCSE.

Paul11 · 7 Nov 2009 at 11:20

the original programe on bbc about black holes was fasinating

this one was bit... . wooosh \over the head gesture

Mik3 · 7 Nov 2009 at 11:29

Thanks for posting this, incredible!

muon · 7 Nov 2009 at 11:43

Alien-Science channel? Credibility just went down.

Also, when calculating the relativistic velocity of the protons orbiting each other, why does F=ma get used on the screen? That's a Newtonian equation.

The other problem, can someone answer please is, how can the vacuum energy mass equivalence within a proton be more than the mass of the proton itself? What actually is vacuum energy?

Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_energy) says vacuum energy is derived from the virtual particles which are created and destroyed everywhere. But does that actually translate to an equivalent mass?

I do actually wish I had done physics at university, incredibly interesting subject.

Spektor · 7 Nov 2009 at 11:55

As soon as I heard "alien science" at the end I right mouse click' deleted the last 2 minutes of my life.

Don't become the new Teki / Magic posting nonsense like this

mrk · 7 Nov 2009 at 12:14

Well the science being explored here is alien to humankind so the name of the channel fits the topic nicely.....get over yourself!

w11tho · 7 Nov 2009 at 14:06

mrk said:
Well the science being explored here...

This is just blind numerology mixed with several misapplications of 1st year undergraduate physics. It's about as close to a theory of quantum mavity as Jo Brand is to the next 100m sprint Olympic gold medal.

mrk · 7 Nov 2009 at 14:21

I'll have you know that Jo Brand is........oh I see.

Fenris · 7 Nov 2009 at 15:08

Alien as in "as yet unknown by humans" you cretins.

Very interesting stuff although I understood around .2 of a second of it, namely when he said "I want to talk about" then it's all a bit of a blur.

muon · 7 Nov 2009 at 15:37

So this is the supposed peer review. A conference in Liege.

Not awarded by the university itself.

However, the conference is run by it http://www2.ulg.ac.be/mathgen/CHAOS/CASYS.html

Heres the paper.

http://www.theresonanceproject.org/pdf/schwarzschild_proton_a4.pdf

Any physicists here able to find holes?

Westie · 7 Nov 2009 at 15:45

lolwut?

Klo · 7 Nov 2009 at 15:50

Alas, my a level physics doesn't quite cover all of that stuff.

I don't think we know the mass of the universe yet, so I'm not sure about that bit.

-|ScottFree|- · 7 Nov 2009 at 18:36

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrcWntw9juM&feature=related

I really love this subject.. its so interesting. I too watched the Black Holes Horizon documentary and really enjoyed it.. its still available on iplayer for those that missed it.

The youtube clip above talks about the link between quantum mechanics and consciousness, its superb. A lot of people refer to this as pseudo religious science, but the idea and concept seem to make absolute sense to me... and its a fantastic idea..

Rroff · 7 Nov 2009 at 18:59

ghost101 said:
Alien-Science channel? Credibility just went down.

Also, when calculating the relativistic velocity of the protons orbiting each other, why does F=ma get used on the screen? That's a Newtonian equation.

The images flashed up didn't always have any relevance to the discussion - they were just done for effect...

ghost101 said:
The other problem, can someone answer please is, how can the vacuum energy mass equivalence within a proton be more than the mass of the proton itself? What actually is vacuum energy?

Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_energy) says vacuum energy is derived from the virtual particles which are created and destroyed everywhere. But does that actually translate to an equivalent mass?

I do actually wish I had done physics at university, incredibly interesting subject.

I'm completely out my depth here but I think what hes trying to say is each proton is like a window to the same view.

Russinating · 7 Nov 2009 at 19:01

I watched that Horizon episode too and I think they're losing their touch, ever since they got rid of the awesome intro tune.

I have a load of Horizon on my PC, and one was made in 2000 called Supermassive Black Holes. It's pretty much exactly the same content (obviously with a couple of new discoveries), so I think they're recycling old ideas.

jak731 · 7 Nov 2009 at 19:06

I'm in my third year of a physics degree at the moment so I know a bit about quantum mechanics. For a start he does not say where he gets his value for 'quantum vacuum density' or how to derive it (and I can't find any reliable source that does), since the rest of his paper is dependant on this value I cba reading any further.

muon · 7 Nov 2009 at 19:40

jak731 said:
I'm in my third year of a physics degree at the moment so I know a bit about quantum mechanics. For a start he does not say where he gets his value for 'quantum vacuum density' or how to derive it (and I can't find any reliable source that does), since the rest of his paper is dependant on this value I cba reading any further.

wiki said:
The energy of a cubic centimeter of empty space has been calculated to be one trillionth of an erg

No idea how that relates exactly to what the author of the posted paper is talking about, or what it even means. Perhaps it does to you.

Wiki's source for the above value is note 1 here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_energy#cite_note-0

w11tho · 7 Nov 2009 at 20:22

Fenris said:
Alien as in "as yet unknown by humans" you cretins.

I'm not sure how many times I need to say this. It's complete and utter rubbish. It has no scientific worth. It is meaningless drivel. It is blind numerology bombarded with poor applications of 1st year undergraduate physics. It is a joke.

Tomorrow I will post some videos of some lectures pertaining to (introductory) modern theoretical physics, and you will see a sharp contrast to that which we've witnessed in the opening post.