Quattro...worth it?

Depends on the car in question, and hence the quattro system within.

I don't personally rate the haldex system as found in the old TT, and the A3.

I can't speak for "proper" quattro systems as found in the larger cars, but they are supposed to be excellent.
 
Depends on what you want. Improves traction capability in most conditions, but costs more, adds weight, increases transmission losses and (debately) removes some of the driver involvement.
So if you want something that's probably safer for 90% of drivers, it's a good thing. You want fun, by a rwd car.
 
The A3 uses the Haldex system as opposed to the Torsen on the A4 so you'll get differing opinions on each. Many are of the opinion that the former isn't "real" 4WD and is far inferior to the latter.

Many with Quattro A3s seem to be of the opinion that it makes a huge difference but I remain to be convinced tbh. I think the main advantage is in making a rapid getaway from a standstill, especially in slippery conditions. Note that, on the A3 at least, it reduces the available boot space and increases CO2 emissions, which might be important to you.
 
It will be a private car, and not one of the "new" models either as i'm not that rich.

I'll be looking at a TDI 130 diesel engine and know from experience getting the power down when you need it can be tricky with FWD so throught that quattro would be a good way to go.

I'm undecided as to if itll be an A3/A4 or even A4 Avant...depends what i find at what price and how my mood takes me on the day!!!
 
Slime101 said:
It will be a private car, and not one of the "new" models either as i'm not that rich.

I'll be looking at a TDI 130 diesel engine and know from experience getting the power down when you need it can be tricky with FWD so throught that quattro would be a good way to go.

I'm undecided as to if itll be an A3/A4 or even A4 Avant...depends what i find at what price and how my mood takes me on the day!!!

Id be interested to know what sort of impact quattro would have in that situ.

obv, you can get the power down better, however, how much do you loose at the wheels?

any ideas?

(clearly enough to make you need to get it tuned ;) )
 
Well I think Quattro on the latest A3 shaves nearly half a second off the 0-60, and that'll be in dry conditions so it obviously does help.

Anyone who was behind me in the RR pub convoy, watching my futile attempt to make a rapid get away from our quick pitstop will attest to the problems of big torque & fwd :D

With the greasy roads we seem to be having round here of late, I can spin the wheels up in 3rd without too much trouble :eek:
 
Vertigo1 said:
Well I think Quattro on the latest A3 shaves nearly half a second off the 0-60, and that'll be in dry conditions so it obviously does help.

Anyone who was behind me in the RR pub convoy, watching my futile attempt to make a rapid get away from our quick pitstop will attest to the problems of big torque & fwd :D

With the greasy roads we seem to be having round here of late, I can spin the wheels up in 3rd without too much trouble :eek:

rumour has it, if you chip it, traction is better......


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IMHO on an A4 or Quattro, yes. You don't want the drive going purely to the front wheels in a car of this type, really, especially if you intend to have one with a good amount of power.

A4 2.5 TDI Quattro Sport with Quattro GMBh bodystyling = sexual.

Do it properly - go Quattro.
 
i have an A3 quattro

In normal day to day driving you dont really notice it tbh

If you start to put your foot down round corners you do, and its great :D i tested a few FWD a3's and they were nice but no where near as "fun" as the quattro, especially as my drive to work is mainly B roads :cool:

You do take a hit on the mpg mind, but then i only do upto about 8-9k miles a year so its not a huge amount to me.

And the quattro coupled with the ESP makes for a rather safe car as well, it has got me out of trouble on a few occasions mainly due to other road users lack of signalling and checking of mirrors :(
 
How much of a hit does the quattro make on the old fuel consumption then? I tent to do quite a few miles which i pay for myself, and potentially could be doing a 100mile round trip commute to work every day as well.

As long as it still returns in the 40-45mpg rather than the 50ish a non quattro should return i'd be happy.

I was reading last night that the quoted figure for both quattro/non quattro is 52mpg with the 130bhp diesel engine, but i dont see how they can be the same.
 
Slime101 said:
How much of a hit does the quattro make on the old fuel consumption then? I tent to do quite a few miles which i pay for myself, and potentially could be doing a 100mile round trip commute to work every day as well.

As long as it still returns in the 40-45mpg rather than the 50ish a non quattro should return i'd be happy.

I was reading last night that the quoted figure for both quattro/non quattro is 52mpg with the 130bhp diesel engine, but i dont see how they can be the same.


Not to sure with the diesels, but in the petrol world i make about 28-29mpg compared to my mates non quattro a3 returning 33-34mpg. But then mine does have an extra 30bhp as standard.
 
Jimmi said:
Not to sure with the diesels, but in the petrol world i make about 28-29mpg compared to my mates non quattro a3 returning 33-34mpg. But then mine does have an extra 30bhp as standard.
Err, so what engine do you have? Unless I'm mistaken, there were never two petrol engines which differed in output by 30bhp, were there?
 
Rhyzz said:
Do you not fancy the diesel A3? I've heard very good things about the TDI's from Audi in general

Er....have another read. I have said at least once that it WILL be a TDi 130 engine as i know from experience they are excellent.
 
Vertigo1 said:
Err, so what engine do you have? Unless I'm mistaken, there were never two petrol engines which differed in output by 30bhp, were there?


the fwd turbo petrol is 150bhp, the Quattro is 180bhp as standard :cool:
 
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