Question about protein shakes

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Ok so ive been doing weight training for about 8 months roughly and never really touched protein shakes as i eat a lot of fish *high in protein* so i thought i didnt need the shakes, but a gym buddy said there are things in the shake that are quite important.
Anyway my question is which should i go for there are like 1 million different types out there, for reference i go to the gym for 3-4 hours everyday, mixed cardio and weight training etc...

Any help on this confusing issue and i will love you forever * IN A TOTALLY MANLY WAY :D *
 
if your getting enough protein from your diet already there is absolutly no need to include shakes, whole food has a lot more important vitamins, minerals and other stuff than shakes
 
if your getting enough protein from your diet already there is absolutly no need to include shakes, whole food has a lot more important vitamins, minerals and other stuff than shakes

Exactly.

Except immediately after training.

Actually, no. If you have a decent meal after workout, say within 1hr - there's no need. People take shakes PWO often because they either can't eat soon after the gym, or erroneously. Though admittedly it won't do you any harm but it's not entirely necessary.

I do, because I don't eat for a couple of hours after a workout - however it's not an absolute necessary.
 
I do, because I don't eat for a couple of hours after a workout - however it's not an absolute necessary.

Interesting. That's completely contrary to my own experience and the views of the majority of the body building universe.

What's happened to the 'golden window' immediately after training we've all read so much about? I have always been told that you always have a shake immediately PWO, then a meal an hour or so later.
 
Protein synthesis is at it's highest point straight after your workout, and therefore it's best to consume a quickly digesting protein such as whey as soon as possible. Simple carbs should also be taken at this point to reload your glycogen stores.
 
It's been proven that a chocolate milk drink is just as effective as a whey shake, i wouldn't worry too much about it.

A meal IS important, i find if i don't eat an hour or two after a ride, my body tends to tank, ie runs out of steam so tells me something is wrong.
 
Protein synthesis is at it's highest point straight after your workout, and therefore it's best to consume a quickly digesting protein such as whey as soon as possible. Simple carbs should also be taken at this point to reload your glycogen stores.

No, the reason that simple carbs are taken with the protein is because the protein is then 'dragged' into the muscles quicker than it would otherwise be.
 
It's been proven that a chocolate milk drink is just as effective as a whey shake, i wouldn't worry too much about it.

A meal IS important, i find if i don't eat an hour or two after a ride, my body tends to tank, ie runs out of steam so tells me something is wrong.

What utter crap. Post the source or edit your post - I do not believe that for one second.
 
Interesting. That's completely contrary to my own experience and the views of the majority of the body building universe.

What's happened to the 'golden window' immediately after training we've all read so much about? I have always been told that you always have a shake immediately PWO, then a meal an hour or so later.

Myth I'm afraid. Your body doesn't suddenly go into musculatory catabolism because you're not having a protein shake within minutes of a work out. If that were true sleeping would cause you to lose lots of mass and muscle - which we all know is wrong. :)

It's clever marketing by health food suppliers. It's a convenience thing, rather than anything else, and helps get a bit more protein into you. It's easier to sell a magic powder that supplements food and sell it, rather than sell a "meal".

There's nothing wrong at all with a PWO shake, but it's not necessary at all. As I said, I take it for the convenience, but I seldom take shakes anyway, and I've still gained a lot of LBM without them. :)

Protein synthesis is elevated PWO however, this lasts for hours, it doesn't suddenly vanish.

So the basics are, it's convenient, it's a good way of getting more calories in, a good way of getting more protein in - and the insulin spike helps with protein synthesis - however as mentioned it's absolutely optional.

As for restoring glycogen stores, unless you're doing 120+ mins of intense working on one body part in an aerobic capacity, that's also a little tenuous. However, perfectly valid if doing that sort of exercise and is absolutely necessary. :) So for Hux and his riding, it makes sense for him to get some food to get the glycogen back into his body. :)

If you want to improve protein synthesis PWO and really make a shake work for you, take leucine - and then eat a good meal.

You will get a lot of people selling and pushing the fact that shakes are VITAL - this is not the case - it's basic science which is clouded by "facts". Don't believe the hype! :D
 
I suppose but still, for bodybuilders it'll probably make a difference, but for general sports i have tried both and not noticed a difference if anything i feel a little less stiff if drinking the chocolate variety.

But anyway im not debating it, mad rapper is clearly spoiling for a fight. :p
 
"Researchers found that chocolate milkshake's "natural" muscle recovery benefits match or may even surpass a specially designed carbohydrate sports drink."

Not the same as protein shakes used to up your daily protein intake post workout.

Agree with craig as it's comparing to a carbohydrate sports drink, not protein.

The chocolate milk most likely did better due to the milk containing both protein and carbs, where the sports drink probably just had carbs.

"We found that muscle glycogen restoration was 128% greater and exercise performance 55% greater when consuming the carbohydrate/protein recovery drink as compared to the traditional sports drink."

REGULATION OF MUSCLE GLYCOGEN REPLETION, MUSCLE
PROTEIN SYNTHESIS AND REPAIR FOLLOWING EXERCISE
John L. Ivy


P.S great post by freefaller!
 
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