question for R/C people

KnightStalker · 2 Apr 2006 at 23:04

Hey guys, im looking to buy some new tires for my TT-01, as i understand it i will need 24mm wide tires, but heres the real question, if i was to buy some from the net, they only show 1 tire, but do they come in 4's or is it 2's? or even 1? the place im mainly looking at is Modelsport.co.uk

Any help on this would be appreciated greatly.

and if anyone can confirm it will be the 24mm tire ill be needing, it would be helpful << disregard that, i measured my width of my wheel hubs and they are indeed 24mm

paradigm · 3 Apr 2006 at 00:51

Tyres generally come in pairs for 1/10th RC, unless stated otherwise.

24mm sounds like the correct (and most common) size also.

KnightStalker · 3 Apr 2006 at 01:59

cheers fella, i just wanted to make sure of those things before i ordered the wrong amount of tires or the wrong size lol, so thanks for the reply, its much appreciated.

KnightStalker · 5 Apr 2006 at 22:44

Instead of me making a new thread, ill add to this one i already made with a fitting title

Ok heres another question.....is SuperGlue, safe to glue my tires to my rims, they are HPI Racing A308, there are pretty soft tires, but would superglue be safe?

AthlonTom · 5 Apr 2006 at 23:42

KnightStalker said:
Instead of me making a new thread, ill add to this one i already made with a fitting title

Ok heres another question.....is SuperGlue, safe to glue my tires to my rims, they are HPI Racing A308, there are pretty soft tires, but would superglue be safe?

Super glue is fine in small amounts, wipe off excess with a rag, clean the tyres with degreser first as this removes the film from the tryes used to remove them from the mold at the factory, cleaning the rims is a good idea too - even if they are new.

If there old rims and some rubber remains from previous tyres, boil them, this cracks the bond and makes the remaining rubber easy to remove.

/RC car nut mode off

KnightStalker · 5 Apr 2006 at 23:51

cheers fella, that what i wanted to hear, my previous tires were slicks, and didnt need glueing, but these new Semi-Slicks, do need glueing as they fall off even if i push it along, ill get cleaning and make them ready

i guess i should just run a very fine line round the groove, placing the tire where i want it as i go along then?

AthlonTom · 5 Apr 2006 at 23:55

KnightStalker said:
cheers fella, that what i wanted to hear, my previous tires were slicks, and didnt need glueing, but these new Semi-Slicks, do need glueing as they fall off even if i push it along, ill get cleaning and make them ready

i guess i should just run a very fine line round the groove, placing the tire where i want it as i go along then?

I used to put the tyre on the rim then pull it evr so slitly awya from the rim as I put super glue in the gap. Don't forget to put foam inserts in BTW (and never reuse old ones)

KnightStalker · 5 Apr 2006 at 23:59

oh damn, i forgot the inserts, i knew there was something else i should have ordered, do they really make that much difference anyway?

AthlonTom · 6 Apr 2006 at 00:10

KnightStalker said:
oh damn, i forgot the inserts, i knew there was something else i should have ordered, do they really make that much difference anyway?

Yep - its like having a real car with the wrong tyre pressure.

Soft inserts will generate more mechanical grip, which is what you want for low grip surfaces. Hard inserts for grippy surfaces.

If you trim the inside edge of the inside of the insert for the front wheels if your using hard inserts on tarmac you should gets less understeer too. Trimming the outside edge off the inside of front intserts if your using soft ones will stop oversteer.

KnightStalker · 6 Apr 2006 at 00:14

oh, its that complicated then, well i only have 1 set of wheels and dont plan on buying more at the moment, as my 2 main events are carpet and tarmac/concrete, any advice on what sort of inserts would be best suited for this?

AthlonTom · 6 Apr 2006 at 00:19

KnightStalker said:
oh, its that complicated then, well i only have 1 set of wheels and dont plan on buying more at the moment, as my 2 main events are carpet and tarmac/concrete, any advice on what sort of inserts would be best suited for this?

If on carpet get some CS22's - you can get a set of 4 mounted on rims with inserts already in - glued and everything - there ok for just about any surface if your only having 1 set.

EDIT - just noticed your asking about inserts! Compromise and get mediums if your not sure of grip levels! Thats about all I can offer without seeing your car or the track!

KnightStalker · 6 Apr 2006 at 00:24

ah ok, any ideas where to look for those? you seem to be very knowledgable (sp?) about this, where as im not

AthlonTom · 6 Apr 2006 at 00:30

KnightStalker said:
ah ok, any ideas where to look for those? you seem to be very knowledgable (sp?) about this, where as im not

I only race at club level now as im at uni - but before I came here a raced at national level. 12th at national indoor finals was a peek. I wont be competative again untill next season now (uni finnishes

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Your best bet is to goto your local club and ask loads of questions, take your car too, let everyone have a look, theyll sort you out, you will get lots of conflicting advice to start with, but you'll quickly figure out whos BS'ing and be able to find what you want.

KnightStalker · 6 Apr 2006 at 00:38

are these the ones your talking about?
Clicky

if so then ill pick some up next time i get payed, but need inserts for my tarmac tires now lol

AthlonTom · 6 Apr 2006 at 00:40

KnightStalker said:
are these the ones your talking about?
Clicky

if so then ill pick some up next time i get payed, but need inserts for my tarmac tires now lol

Yeah CS22 work well on the carpet I race on - especially with additve too.

KnightStalker · 6 Apr 2006 at 00:43

ok cool, i found on that website the tires and inserts seperatly as i do have a spare set of hubs somewhere i should use for carpets.

Last question for the night, what sort of inserts for tarmac?

AthlonTom · 6 Apr 2006 at 00:53

KnightStalker said:
ok cool, i found on that website the tires and inserts seperatly as i do have a spare set of hubs somewhere i should use for carpets.

Last question for the night, what sort of inserts for tarmac?

depends really - some tarmac is quite erm "Soft?" if you know what I mean? Like really soft playground tarmic would require a harder insert, really really hard ungrippy industrial style concrete would want a slightly softer insert - it's really difficult to advice over the internet really - and trial and error is expensive - your local model shop/club would be better suited for reliable advice.

KnightStalker · 6 Apr 2006 at 01:02

Ok well thanks for the help on the Carpet tires, will get them ASAP, and i nip down to my local hobby store and see what they say for tarmac, the tarmac track is the same as a go kart track, but obviously built for R/C cars

Berger · 6 Apr 2006 at 01:11

Just use 22s on the tarmac, i would worry a lot more about car setup and driving for the time being.
The nationals are run on control tyres/insert/wheel combinations which all have medium inserts from their relative makes, so they cant be that bad

KnightStalker · 6 Apr 2006 at 01:14

yea i see what you mean, but the tarmac track is outdoors and is very dusty, so normal slicks are out of the question for that, semi - slicks work best on that sort of track

at a guess i think a medium would be best, as i can setup the rest of car around them, and the mediums will leave my options a little as to what sort of track i race on.

also its rained a lot this winter and semi-slicks are probably going to work a bit better under that sort of condition.