Question re HD

BarryFell · 13 Sep 2006 at 23:20

Question, the max resolution my 27" LCD TV will run is 1380x768. (It's a pretty cheap one I got free from my work) Will I be getting loads of jaggies and be forced to use a lower than max res from a 360 with it?

I have a Hitachi CP-X320 LCD projector as well which I run at 1280x1024 from my computer which I assume will be better for it.

Can either of these run a 360 in HD? (I'd have to use VGA)

I'm not sure what the deal is with console resolutions as i've never had one.

DaveyD · 13 Sep 2006 at 23:25

The standard and reccomended 360 resolution is 720p, which is 1280x720.

The 360 VGA cable will output to 1380x768 fine I believe, and will also output at 1280x1024, but will have black borders on some games etc.

BarryFell · 13 Sep 2006 at 23:29

OK thanks. So what is the max resolution?

DaveyD · 14 Sep 2006 at 07:34

BarryFell said:
OK thanks. So what is the max resolution?

Of the VGA cable, it is 1360x768.

But the 360 can output an upscaled 1080i image, which is 1920x1080, via the compnent cable, but 1080i for the 360 is just upscaled from 720p, and is not progressive like 720p, so not as good overall.

BarryFell · 14 Sep 2006 at 07:36

OK thanks for that.

DaveyD · 14 Sep 2006 at 07:42

I guess your TV has component input, if so, then you don't really have to worry much, as you just set it to 720p on the settings in the 360 and you're all done. Else you may need to get the VGA cable if you don't have component input.

johntmanic · 14 Sep 2006 at 08:00

DaveyD said:
The standard and reccomended 360 resolution is 720p, which is 1280x720.

Is that true?! because on my tv, 1080i looks and run the best for me?!

DaveyD · 14 Sep 2006 at 08:31

johntmanic said:
Is that true?! because on my tv, 1080i looks and run the best for me?!

The 360 renders (pretty much) everything in 720, and then upscales or downscales according to your resolution. As 720p is progressive, you should get an overall better look and feel of games on screen regarding smoothness and all that, compared to the interlaced part of 1080i. Though I've really not looked into it in great detail on my HDTV, I found 720p felt better personally. If it looks good for you, then keep it at whatever resolution you're happy with.

Abooie · 14 Sep 2006 at 08:56

johntmanic said:
Is that true?! because on my tv, 1080i looks and run the best for me?!

I also find 1080i better for me for the most part on my Toshiba 32WLT66.
I think this may be due to the fact most 32" screens have 736 lines not 720 so the tv has to actually 'replicate' 16 lines. At 1080i it has enough discrete lines to use.

My TV's documentation advises setting source material to 1080i over 720p and other uses of this TV on AVForums have come to the same conclusion that 1080i is better.

I did find on Burnout: Revenge, due to its fast nature, that I preferred 720p but the difference was slight.

In the end it depends on the TV, how you connect, your eyes/brain and the game

johntmanic · 14 Sep 2006 at 09:25

smcshaw said:
I also find 1080i better for me for the most part on my Toshiba 32WLT66.
I think this may be due to the fact most 32" screens have 736 lines not 720 so the tv has to actually 'replicate' 16 lines. At 1080i it has enough discrete lines to use.

My TV's documentation advises setting source material to 1080i over 720p and other uses of this TV on AVForums have come to the same conclusion that 1080i is better.

I did find on Burnout: Revenge, due to its fast nature, that I preferred 720p but the difference was slight.

In the end it depends on the TV, how you connect, your eyes/brain and the game

I think im in the same boat as you because ive got a 32" samsung and it looks a lot better at 1080i

I might have another bash at the other resolutions tonight but i find that 720 looks a bit blurry?!?

SC04 · 14 Sep 2006 at 13:10

DaveyD said:
The 360 renders (pretty much) everything in 720, and then upscales or downscales according to your resolution. As 720p is progressive, you should get an overall better look and feel of games on screen regarding smoothness and all that, compared to the interlaced part of 1080i. Though I've really not looked into it in great detail on my HDTV, I found 720p felt better personally. If it looks good for you, then keep it at whatever resolution you're happy with.

What that man says, and TBO I think the 360 looks good in all resolutions due to the internal rendering and the scaler, the chances are any faults you find are down to the TV/monitor its being displayed on, LCDs have scalers too so some might be processing twice ? you notice this with older consoles switching from 480i to 480P not a lot happens on an LCD, but on CRT there is a noticable improvement.
Reminds me of the computer monitors with DVI and VGA, there should be no difference between the two if the conversion from Analogue to digital is at its best, but most people will claim DVI is superior, because their particular monitor isnt doing VGA as well as it could be done.