Questions And Advice For New Build

MutenJoshi said:
Also, I've found a bundle for an ASUS RTX 3070ti TUF gaming GPU with a Corsair RM850x PSU for £780. It'll probably go by the time I get chance to place an order but would something like that be worth the money?
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That a good price for a non nvidia card if you take the cost of the rm850x off... just found that deal...they also have zotac 3070ti in stock for £614.19(nvidia 3070ti reference card is £529, so only £85 more than reference card)
 
Craig_d1 said:
That a good price for a non nvidia card if you take the cost of the rm850x off... just found that deal...they also have zotac 3070ti in stock for £614.19(nvidia 3070ti reference card is £529, so only £85 more than reference card)
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That wasn't on what I looked. I'm tempted to go for the zotac. Can't see me getting a card much cheaper? Worth pulling the trigger on either of those do you think?
 
MutenJoshi said:
That wasn't on what I looked. I'm tempted to go for the zotac. Can't see me getting a card much cheaper? Worth pulling the trigger on either of those do you think?
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If I hadn't got my 3080, 3070ti next best thing, and for that price I'd pull trigger. Last 3070ti drop was jun18th, though did see story a month ago saying would be tightness in gpu supply still for1st half jul, then more mould come thru, and seeing as places actually have stock, nice to see some decent prices. Non nvidia cards generally are more expensive, as nvidia price them aggressively, so the zotac near as normal price I'd say. If you're happy with 3070ti, think that's a great price. Your downside £85 compared to reference, but who knows when next drop is
 
Craig_d1 said:
If I hadn't got my 3080, 3070ti next best thing, and for that price I'd pull trigger. Last 3070ti drop was jun18th, though did see story a month ago saying would be tightness in gpu supply still for1st half jul, then more mould come thru, and seeing as places actually have stock, nice to see some decent prices. Non nvidia cards generally are more expensive, as nvidia price them aggressively, so the zotac near as normal price I'd say. If you're happy with 3070ti, think that's a great price. Your downside £85 compared to reference, but who knows when next drop is
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Ok great. Stupid question but I'm unlikely to get the rest of my components for 3-4months. Any issues it sitting around in it's box for a few months?
 
MutenJoshi said:
Ok great. Stupid question but I'm unlikely to get the rest of my components for 3-4months. Any issues it sitting around in it's box for a few months?
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Pointless buying a gpu now and leaving it just to sit. The price could be halved in 3-4 months. ALso could double the way the world is going.
 
dfour said:
Pointless buying a gpu now and leaving it just to sit. The price could be halved in 3-4 months. ALso could double the way the world is going.
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True. No idea which way it's going to go. At least there's more in stock. I might just hold off for a while until I can afford the rest.
 
dfour said:
Pointless buying a gpu now and leaving it just to sit. The price could be halved in 3-4 months. ALso could double the way the world is going.
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Doubt that zotac will halve in value when it was priced £85 more than the nvidia reference card. I'd say that was more like it's msrp. OCuk has it at £839.99(in stock)
 
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doubt the tuf will last long either, 11 people buying that right now also(listed £900 to £950 elsewhere). hopefully more will arrive and price normalise for people. OCuk price £889.99 for reference
 
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Craig_d1 said:
doubt the tuf will last long either, 11 people buying that right now also(listed £900 to £950 elsewhere). hopefully more will arrive and price normalise for people. OCuk price £889.99 for reference
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It's gone but I'm not overly concerned. It's given me confidence of getting a card for £650 eventually. I wouldn't have any other components for a few months either.
 
Craig_d1 said:
Doubt that zotac will halve in value when it was priced £85 more than the nvidia reference card. I'd say that was more like it's msrp. OCuk has it at £839.99(in stock)
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Apologies for the amount of questions but just a few quick ones now that I'm getting closer to reaching my budget - I've managed to reach £1.4k so hoping for a total budget including the £440 monitor of £2k):

  1. I've seen on the Nvidia website that some 3070ti's (gigabyte gaming OC) are £729 which suggests that's its MSRP for this model? When I've looked on this forum to people's opinions, that kind of price seems ridiculous for a 3070ti. Even though it's a slightly boosted model and third part one, does £729 seem a reasonable price for the extras? It's in stock in some places (OC has it up to £799 for what seem similar models but I've seen some previously at £730-750). Would you stay away these models for what it's worth?
  2. Also, whilst it'll mean delaying buying anything but would there be any benefit in going for a 5800x instead of the 5600x? Just thinking I'll want to upgrade in around 4/5 years for 4k (this build will only be 1440p ultrawide - 144hz now). Would the 8 cores/16 threads help to avoid bottlenecking vs the 6 cores/12 threads of the 5600x or will I not notice much difference (even at 4k). Other option is just be willing to pay for upgrading the CPU at the same time as the GPU in approx 5 years time. By that time there may be better options than the 5800x anyway?
  3. Does anyone know if OC do NHS discount? That could throw a spanner in the works if they do (can't find it anywhere so I'm assuming no).
Just seen £440 preorder on OC for a 3060ti. I know it'll be a hit in performance from a 3070ti but so much cheaper! Main thing holding me off is I've got it in my head I'll need a 3070ti minimum but that's £300 more!
 
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The trouble with the 3070ti is its a lot of cash for a card with only 8gb of VRAM so would need to be upgraded again sooner rather than later.

A 5600X is ok but again will need upgrading sooner rather than later also the difference between a £140 3600 vs the £250 5600X at 1440p with a 3070ti is around 3% on average so if you only want to go for 6 cores and upgrade to 8 or 12 cores in the near future then the 3600 is probably a better option cost wise.

£440 is actually pretty decent for a 3060ti and only a few quid over the msrp. Could save the difference by getting the 3060ti and using it to put towards a RTX4000 series card later on which will hopefully all come with increased VRAM.
 
Joxeon said:
The trouble with the 3070ti is its a lot of cash for a card with only 8gb of VRAM so would need to be upgraded again sooner rather than later.

A 5600X is ok but again will need upgrading sooner rather than later also the difference between a £140 3600 vs the £250 5600X at 1440p with a 3070ti is around 3% on average so if you only want to go for 6 cores and upgrade to 8 or 12 cores in the near future then the 3600 is probably a better option cost wise.

£440 is actually pretty decent for a 3060ti and only a few quid over the msrp. Could save the difference by getting the 3060ti and using it to put towards a RTX4000 series card later on which will hopefully all come with increased VRAM.
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Thanks for the advice, I really appreciate it. I'll have a look for some videos but how do you think a 3600 and a 3060ti would perform on a 1440p Ultrawide?
 
MutenJoshi said:
Thanks for the advice, I really appreciate it. I'll have a look for some videos but how do you think a 3600 and a 3060ti would perform on a 1440p Ultrawide?
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A 3070ti is about 20% faster than a 3060ti so not sure it's worth spending around 70% more. Maybe pick up the 3060ti for now and try and get a 3080FE going forward which is around 50% faster while also being £100 cheaper than the 70ti.
 
Joxeon said:
A 3070ti is about 20% faster than a 3060ti so not sure it's worth spending around 70% more. Maybe pick up the 3060ti for now and try and get a 3080FE going forward which is around 50% faster while also being £100 cheaper than the 70ti.
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I've done a couple of quick builds below. Seems to be around £350 cheaper than what it would be with a 5600x + 3070ti. (the 3070ti would probably be more around £750).

Ultimately, if it can run pretty much all games at 1440p ultrawide on close to max settings, I'd go for the cheaper one for now and upgrade. Guess I need to get looking for approx performances with these kind of setups to find what kind of benefit the addition £350 would give me.

Edit: No idea why I said the last part about looking at the performances because you told me the difference already. Unsure though if 3440 x 1440 will knock be below 60fps with a 3060ti though. A lot of videos online seem to be in the range of 60fps or above depending on the game but that was at standard 1440p.


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The card you really want is the 3080 but they are still quite high priced right now unless you can bag an FE that's why I'd propose picking up the 3060ti now and using the left over cash to put towards trying to get the 3080FE, you could easily sell the 3060ti for close what you paid for it while you would take a bigger hit on the 3070ti

Another option is going for a bundle deal that includes a 3080 as these often mean getting the card closer to msrp and since you need all the other parts also then this makes sense.
 
Joxeon said:
The card you really want is the 3080 but they are still quite high priced right now unless you can bag an FE that's why I'd propose picking up the 3060ti now and using the left over cash to put towards trying to get the 3080FE, you could easily sell the 3060ti for close what you paid for it while you would take a bigger hit on the 3070ti

Another option is going for a bundle deal that includes a 3080 as these often mean getting the card closer to msrp and since you need all the other parts also then this makes sense.
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I was looking at bundle deals but can't find anything with a 3080 which wouldn't send me well over the £2k with monitor. I'm very tempted by the 3060ti. Even though there's not much difference between the 5600x and 3600, I might got with that bundle with the mobo and ram. So would be 5600x and 3060ti as below. Unless I can find a 3080 bundle in the next 10 mins or so, I might order the 3060ti.

What are your thoughts on this build?

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