Quick decision - T-Mobile G1 or wait
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I charge my N95 every night so I'm sure it can't be much worse
If your used to it everynight I don't see why not.
But if theres no reason to go with T-Mobile, I would much rather have the HTC Touch HD - it looks the babes.
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HTC touch HD much better alternative. its like an iphone, only much better
arn't failure rates on the G1s pretty high too?
But it uses Windows Mobile? I thought it was regarded as the worst OS that was painful to use?
The Touch HD is a truely great phone, the only problem being Windows Mobile. Android is fantastic.
I was offered a G1 as a free upgrade sticking to my Bronze 12 month contract @ £17.50/mth so it was a pretty easy decision for me.
I was offered a G1 as a free upgrade sticking to my Bronze 12 month contract @ £17.50/mth so it was a pretty easy decision for me.
Just noticed this pop up - I bought one
Really really like the phone. It's a pleasure to use, and friends with Windows Mobile phones can't believe how responsive it is!
Right now the software collection isn't massive, but it's got a few cool bits and pieces. The only real downer is the battery life. I've not had a phone cut out on me for years, but even though I'm charging daily sometimes it can't last a long night. I'm thinking about trying to buy the slim uprated battery - has about 50% more capacity.
Really really like the phone. It's a pleasure to use, and friends with Windows Mobile phones can't believe how responsive it is!
Right now the software collection isn't massive, but it's got a few cool bits and pieces. The only real downer is the battery life. I've not had a phone cut out on me for years, but even though I'm charging daily sometimes it can't last a long night. I'm thinking about trying to buy the slim uprated battery - has about 50% more capacity.
Failing on what?
Have you tried turning off the 3G? When I first got the G1 I had 3G on all the time and the charge would only last a day like yours. The 3G coverage isn't that great at my home/work and would sometimes cut out in the middle of loading a web page, so I turned off 3G. Now the battery lasts 2.5-3 days between charges and the connection is 100% stable. I know 3G is much faster but even without it the web loading times is fast enough for my needs (forums/news/wiki etc). It might be an idea to switch it off for a day and see if you can live with 2G speeds (or 2.5G or EDGE or whatever the next step down is called
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Have you tried turning off the 3G? When I first got the G1 I had 3G on all the time and the charge would only last a day like yours. The 3G coverage isn't that great at my home/work and would sometimes cut out in the middle of loading a web page, so I turned off 3G. Now the battery lasts 2.5-3 days between charges and the connection is 100% stable. I know 3G is much faster but even without it the web loading times is fast enough for my needs (forums/news/wiki etc). It might be an idea to switch it off for a day and see if you can live with 2G speeds (or 2.5G or EDGE or whatever the next step down is called
Mr-Xoc
I know you are just helping by posting a solution, however I don't believe that you should have to turn off features that you want on a phone off just because the battery is shocking.
I was told the same by a salesman in the T Mobile shop.
Me: I've heard the screen is quite nice on these
Him: <Shows his G1's screen>
Me: Bit dark isn't it?
Him: Yeah thats because i've got the backlight turned down - look now.
Me: Looks pretty nice, so why have you turned down the backlight?
I've heard the G1's battery life is a bit of a concern
Him: It's fine if you turn down the backlight and turn off 3G and get this great power saving app from Android market etc etc etc
Me: But doesn't that defeat the point of getting a smartphone if you have to turn everything you like about it off just to get some usage out of it?
Him: ......
Do you mean physically? It always puzzles me when people say that about the G1. It's one of the ugliest phones I've ever seen. It looks like it was designed by a 12-year-old boy playing with AutoCAD. The 'lip' at the bottom looks particularly ridiculous.
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I know you like your G1 - Love it in fact - But the fanboy-ish defence of it gets a little old. I'm sure you know what he is on about - You have had to return two models, if I remember correctly?
Now I've got a working G1 I think it's great but it took *too* long to get it sorted (I am also on my third handset) - It is clear this phone doesn't have the best build quality and definitely has its fair share of "failure rates" (To use the previously questioned comment).
Tbh you bitching got old real quick. Everyone on the forums could read that the phone wasn't for you, yet you still got it, let the 7 day warranty run out and then moan about it.
I have sent back 1 phone because of what I deemed as a fault, a squeaky hinge. My first phone was sent back because I cancelled the contract.
I read the 3 main Android community forums and there is no way this phone has a large amount of failure rates. I wouldn't even say it has any failure rates.
I love my phone to bits, but there is nothing fanboyish about me asking someone what the G1 is supposedly failing on. Here's the comment again just in case your ignorance blocked it out
I love my 360, some people would say I'm a fanboy. That's no problem. But I can accept the fact that they are notorious for failing. In fact I have had to return 4 of them because of RROD.
So please. Don't tell me I know what he's on about. I can accept that the phone has missing features, crappy battery life, unattractive design. But faults it does not.
I have sent back 1 phone because of what I deemed as a fault, a squeaky hinge. My first phone was sent back because I cancelled the contract.
I read the 3 main Android community forums and there is no way this phone has a large amount of failure rates. I wouldn't even say it has any failure rates.
I love my phone to bits, but there is nothing fanboyish about me asking someone what the G1 is supposedly failing on. Here's the comment again just in case your ignorance blocked it out
I love my 360, some people would say I'm a fanboy. That's no problem. But I can accept the fact that they are notorious for failing. In fact I have had to return 4 of them because of RROD.
So please. Don't tell me I know what he's on about. I can accept that the phone has missing features, crappy battery life, unattractive design. But faults it does not.
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Don't think so... I asked a few questions and got answers - What a forum is here for right? And when things went wrong I posted on here only after actually speaking to T-Mobile. I didn't "wait" (You imply this was intentional) until the 7-day warranty and in fact T-Mobile (At a later date since my post) confirmed that I was not at fault and gave me my 7-day warranty afresh to ensure that the contract/phone was suitable in full agreement that there was no error on my part. You'll note that often as much as I criticise, I also complement - Whilst I find a "7-day warranty" a farce, I think T-Mobile support on the whole do well (Not least answer the phones very quickly).
Is the G1 suitable for me? Now I have a model without abnormal faults, the answer would be an overwhelming yes! I love it and everybody I show it to does too! But does it mean it is without faults? Of course not! If it had been then I wouldn't of needed to have gone through two faulty phones. It is clear that G1 suffers from some quality control issues.
The difference here is that I enjoy the merits of the G1 without being blinkered into thinking it is amazing/perfect/without fault.
Hmm?
If I remember correctly you intended to sent it back anyway for a pixel issue that was bothering you.
You're right - You can love something even though it "fails". The difference is in answer to the question (Regarding your analogy with the XBox) "Does it fail a lot"? You would have to reply "Yes!" (Having had to return 4). Of course you could reply "I love my XBox" but it doesn't answer the question "Does it fail a lot?"
In any case, you seem to have taken everything very personally - You appear very active regarding the G1 on these forums and have helped and answered many questions posed by both others and me... And it would be fantastic to see you continue doing so. My criticism however is that it appears you love your G1 that much that it hurts you to say a bad word about it.
I propose that we leave this disagreement here - It will not progress, I'm sure, and doesn't help the original poster at all beyond this point. At the very least it is now clear that the G1 has split opinions.
Regarding O/P: Whilst the O/P has now got a G1, it would be pointless for me to not give my G1 comments:
I would go for the G1 assuming you are lucky and get a perfectly working one (Considering 2x people in this thread on our 3rd units then this is not as easy as it seems). If battery life is concern to you then I'd avoid but I think light to moderate use will easily yield a day if not two. The battery issue is really blown out of proportion. The G1 has a lot to offer and I believe that Android will become common place very soon (And possibly the new standard). Remember that the G1 is still, in effect, a beta product and if you can live with that you'll have a great time. If not, I'd do as Rhys says - More models on the way, so maybe wait! In any case, it seems fixes being rolled out OTA can fix the majority of little bugs/quirks people find.
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My interpretation of the original use of “failure” was relating to the issues regarding build quality (Pixel issues, squeaky keyboards, unresponsive keys, etc). It is not the word that I would have used (Perhaps “fault”). If “failure” can be read into in this way then I would certainly confirm I have read (Across several forums) people who have had “faults” with G1 (Causing them to have to be returned for replacement).
Of course, you’re more likely to find comments regarding problems than comments with praise and I was certainly searching for message board regarding problems when I encountered some myself. To this extent I think it is fair to say that the G1 has had its fair share of problems.
If I misunderstood the original use of the word “failure” then please correct me, and I will stand correct but that aside the G1 certainly seems to have (hardware) faults. I cannot compare this to other mobile phones, as I have not searched for problems relating to others and have no past experience (Of faulty mobile phones) myself.
Whilst on this topic, I find it odd that it is Android that is cutting edge yet I’ve never had any major problems with the actual software and the majority of problems I have read have related to hardware… Kind of unfortunate really (As otherwise I think the G1 would be a certain success in all areas).
Of course, you’re more likely to find comments regarding problems than comments with praise and I was certainly searching for message board regarding problems when I encountered some myself. To this extent I think it is fair to say that the G1 has had its fair share of problems.
If I misunderstood the original use of the word “failure” then please correct me, and I will stand correct but that aside the G1 certainly seems to have (hardware) faults. I cannot compare this to other mobile phones, as I have not searched for problems relating to others and have no past experience (Of faulty mobile phones) myself.
Whilst on this topic, I find it odd that it is Android that is cutting edge yet I’ve never had any major problems with the actual software and the majority of problems I have read have related to hardware… Kind of unfortunate really (As otherwise I think the G1 would be a certain success in all areas).