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Strife212 said:
In what way were they not, that was the entire point.
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What was the entire point exactly?

They just weren't 'dissolved' in any sense.

They aren't actually described in any sense in the UK, with it having absolutely little to none written constitution.

None of them are individually sovereign and neither do any of them meet the all of the International Standards (or Geographers). They do have internationally recognised borders however etc

It means you can pull almost any stance in the between.

The one fact remains however, the UK is a unitary sovereign state which is made up of the four constituent countries and only by political union.

Can I say there is no job of Prime Minister just because it isn't actually written down anywhere?
 
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Well you're right there. The definition of "country" is so loose that almost anything can be described as a country now I look. They certainly aren't sovereign states though which is what most people think of when they think of a country.



Anyway, there was no point me bringing it up because it makes no difference whatsoever for this thread :p, in the UK you can usually get away with putting down anything, England, Scotland, UK, internationally its a UK license though.
 
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We live in the UK and we're all British according to whoever decides these things... The only times when England/Scotland/Wales/NI count as individual 'countries' are for various sporting events. :rolleyes:
 
Strife212 said:
Well you're right there. The definition of "country" is so loose that almost anything can be described as a country now I look. They certainly aren't sovereign states though which is what most people think of when they think of a country.
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To a certain extent yes however strong differences in identity and culture can strengthen the idea of a country. Conflation of country and state doesn't help either.

The only thing to be dissolved was the old Scottish Parliament. (and a bunch of other stuff but anyway..)
 
Hmmm, just got my renewal through the post as mine was 10 years old. It seems I put United Kingdom as my place of birth.
 
I'd only put UK if i was Scottish, Welsh or Northern Irish, as it makes you look better.

I'd personally obviously put English as I'm not from one of the other inferior countries in our kingdom ;)
 
rG-tom said:
I'd only put UK if i was Scottish, Welsh or Northern Irish, as it makes you look better.

I'd personally obviously put English as I'm not from one of the other inferior countries in our kingdom ;)
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Can't argue with that,my neighbour put his nationality down on a census form as Martian and was visited by the council and advised ?
 
Castiel said:
My new one states UK also, however my old one said England.
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That's a good point, my old one said England, too. In fact it said, 'Leicester, England' ... they must have changed it because I didn't.
 
MrLOL said:
http://vimeo.com/19352714

Clear now ? :D
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The are a bunch of inaccuracies though, to quote a post from site (b2cause I'm too lazy to point them out myself):

Aaron Wilson said:
As a British (English) Politics student I'd like to point out a couple mistakes (despite the fact I appreciate and like your video very much).

The United Kingdom is a single country - a unitary state. It is composed of 4 constituent nations, which are coequal, but not sovereign. The British Parliament, based in Westminster is sovereign over all territory of the United Kingdom. However the term 'country of countries' is indeed an accurate description.

With the U.K. being a unitary state, London is not the de facto capital, it's just the capital.

I would also take issue with the description of the U.K. as technically being a theocracy. It is a constitutional monarchy where the monarch (the crown) has a purely ceremonial role and has no substantive political powers.

I appreciate this video's point is to dispel popular myths and misconceptions about the U.K., but I feel the way in which the section on the crown is framed actually plays into the untruth that the Queen has much to do with anything. We are fully democratic.

Finally, it would be helpful to make clear in the diagrams that the British Overseas Territories and Crown Dependencies are reliant on the Parliament in Westminster and fall under its jurisdiction. Thus they are owned by the Crown, but via the U.K. (The diagram makes them seem on an equal footing with the U.K., Canada & other independent Commonwealth states).

I don't mean to be overly critical, these comments are purely intended to be helpful and I'd like to say well done!
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Other than that, cool video.
 
He's preparing another version, its being discussed on his blog.

But its a good start.

Nobody seems to be able to agree on what "England" actually is. Such complex political history.
 
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