Quick Rant About My University

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Tuesdays at University I have a Lecture which is scheduled from 9am to 10am and thats it for the day.

Today, it finished at 9.30am. All the Lecturer did was read from a PowerPoint Presentation which is on the Internet which we can Download to our own machines.
So I could have just read it at home and not bother going in for that Lecture.

So there I was at 9.30am, waiting around for an hour for the train :(
It just annoys me as the Lecture lasted 30minutes, and to get from home to Uni and back it took me 40minutes :(
 
It was the same when I was at uni. There were some lectures that were short and of no educational value at all. The amount that were cancelled really annoyed me as well. I paid a lot of money for tuition fees only to have 30-40% of my lectures cancelled. I probably would have lost all hope in uni if it wasn't for one Lecturer who had a passion for what he was teaching and didn't mess around.
 
it was the same for me also, after a while you learn which lectures are worth attending i.e. which lectures add value on top of the slides, but most just do what you said and read word for word whats on the slides.

When this happened to me it was a lecture first thing in the morning at 9:30am then there wouldn't be anything else untill about 4:00pm, so a loooog wait. In the end I just didn't bother with the one at 4 as 1) he just read from the slides and 2) I knew a lot more about the subject than he was teaching us so no need.

You might however need to start going back to the lectures towards the end of the year as some give you tips for the exam i.e. what to revise.


At the moment i'm waiting to finish my masters which all thats left if my dissertation (due in december), however I was supposed to be allocated a supervisor to "guide me", this was back in July and since then the guy assigning supervisors was taken ill and wont be around till the end of oct. So basically i've gone 4 month doing bits on my dissertation and i've not seen my supervisor who's ment to first tell me that the subject i've chosen is approperate and seccond i'm not doing too much. Thinking of asking for an extension if I don't get one this week :mad:
 
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lay-z-boy said:
omg!

*insert drama gif, but i dont have it as im on the school comps*

dramatb0.jpg

;)
 
Samtheman1k said:
It's important issues like that this make you appreciate what is going on in the rest of the world, Irag, Afghan, N.K., Africa etc...
Yes we shouldn't discuss anything on the forums which is of less importance than those issues :confused:
 
Sounds about right! It's one of the unfortunate consequences of the Uni set-up that academics performing research are obliged to do lectures for the students, so a lot of the time the lectures are almost a distraction for the lecturers so a 'Read from Powerpoint' is the easiest way to get round it. That said however, there also many academics who take pride in their lectures and their presentation ability who deliver excellent lectures which the students benefit greatly from attending.

Out of interest, if you've got the whole day free, why not do some reading around your subject and try and understand it in a bit more depth rather than going straight home, I think that's what you're supposed to do ;)
 
This happens all the time. The lectures will go a little more in depth that what is on the powerpoint presentation (or at least mine do). I've found that if you skip lectures and just read the powerpoint notes you don't get all the information. They are very vague and only used to point out the main areas of interest.
 
dirtydog said:
Is this why degrees take three years? A whole day with only one half hour lecture?

I don't know what year stevechapman is in but as you go through uni your 'contact hours' (a pointless euphemism for teaching time) do tend to decrease, in fourth year here I have approx six hours total time spent with lecturers per week and the rest of the time is meant to be for my own study. Technically I think I am meant to be doing somewhere around 30-40 hours of personal study outside my classes as a minimum per week which breaks down to an additional 6-8 hours per subject per week(there is the dissertation as well), what I actually do may be a bit different but that isn't really the point here. :)

It is a bit irritating going to a class only to discover that you either learn nothing or it is cut drastically short but since you are at uni because you want to be then simply make the most of it. Like Rich_L says do some reading around the subject, do an essay that you have for later or even start preparing revision for exams.
 
I have never complained when a lecture finishes early!!! You can go have coffee/chat to your friends for 30 mins until you go home or catch an early bus/train (if you can). WIN-WIN situation if you ask me. I used to have lectures in 4 hour blocks sometimes (4 am, 4 pm) and you would pray they would finish early so you could go grab a drink in the break.

The worst part of uni is turning up for a 9am lecture, which is then cancelled and you dont have anything until 2pm :eek:
 
I'd rather have the lecturers to be honest, as I mentioned earlier I have paid good money to be taught and get a good degree, not to sit around drinking. (Thats not to say that I didn't have a laugh when i was at uni.)
 
we get called in for 15 min meetings from power point slides, that arent even to do with anything... just telling us how to do a report, can be read from home!

physics lectures are pretty damn boring as well, if you dont have an interest in it like me!
 
my lecturers hardly ever finished early. can you not ask your lecturer for a layout for the year so you know what's going to happen in each lecture ?

MW
 
First off, sorry for the size of this reply.

Secondly I totally agree that a great deal of universities seem to offer very little content in terms of education.
  • In the first year they teach some new stuff, but it’s all very basic, so as to get people up to a similar level.
  • Second year is a little more development in certain areas, however I found that some lectures were just as basic as the contents given in the first year and the amount of regurgitated/reused material was very high (certainly 40%).
  • The third year teaches you even less than the first or second year. What we were told is that we must do own learning (LOL, so basically what we they are saying is that they aren't going to teach us much about anything in the third year). I found support for my final year project to be very small, with the lecturers using the excuse that they cannot do your project for you! (This is actually a lie as some tutors did pretty much tell some student exactly what to do each week).

The trick that the universities have is that you don’t actually pay for your course until you leave and then you realise what a big waste of time the contents actually were, but it’s already too late.

The way they differentiate students work also seemed to apply directly to the amount of work produced. Sure they tell you stories of people achieving firsts with 3000 word dissertations, but I never actually saw that happen!

I am not saying having a degree is a bad thing because it certainly helps you get your foot through the door and I did learn new things that I wouldn't have if I had not attended.
What I feel though is that university degrees could and can (in some cases) teach a lot more content, hence why some universities are good and the vast majority are filled with people who have stories about how they used to work in industry, but gave it all up to work as a lecturer (i.e. they were lazy and bad at their jobs and so did something more towards there ability (*I am not applying this to all lecturers))

It is true that there are some great lecturers out there who inspire and show enthusiasm as well as this they are willing to help (basically do their jobs correctly, which shouldn't really be any cause to celebrate).
I feel universities should be made to charge students on a day to day basis and so if the content is bad then it should be seen so by students not paying or not attending and again not paying. This would encourage more monitoring of lectures and more moderating of universities.
One of the main problems with universities is that it is actually VERY difficult to fire their staff. I know of lecturers who were not teaching or doing a minimum amount of teaching for two years and still getting paid. Show me another business where staff can do this?

It's important issues like that this make you appreciate what is going on in the rest of the world, Irag, Afghan, N.K., Africa etc...


Education is a very important world issue and I think talking about it is a way of addressing the issue. Some of those problems might be better avoided with advance in education for the populace. Just because the media isn’t putting it in the limelight at present it doesn’t mean it is insignificant. I for one don’t want to engage in a further conversation about other countries problems because apart from supplying aid what else are we supposed to do (rhetorical)?
 
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