Quick Shift Kits

Phil W

Phil W

Phil W

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Hi all,

As most will know (if they have driven one), the 206 has a really long gear throw.

A company called Griffiths Engineering produce "Quick-Shift" kits for them. They produce 2 different ones for my car, as pictured below...

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As you can see, quite simple devices, they are £19.99 each.

What i'd like to know is, has anyone used a quickshift before? A friend has fitted one to his GTi-6 and he says "its awesome" but i've done some reading and a couple of guys have said...

- The gearbox becomes "sloppy" over time (not confirmed)
- Some gearbox's dont like the change, and are prone to going pop.

99.9% of reviews are good, and give a postive change in that the throw is shortened and the general "feel" of the gearbox is tightened up...

B&M also do a short-shift, its more expensive (£100) but fixes in the car itself (replaces the current gearstick) rather than on the gear linkage.

Or i could just leave it, another option would be to cut the gear lever shorter, although i'm not convinced as it how much this is going to improve gear changes...

Phil
 
I considered one (Skunk2) but didn't want to add any additional strain to the transmission, but the throw is pretty short in my car as standard.
 
Tim said:
I considered one (Skunk2) but didn't want to add any additional strain to the transmission, but the throw is pretty short in my car as standard.
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Long on the 206, i wouldn't be planning on taking it off anytime soo, i just don't want to cause any damage through fitting it...
 
jon.bda said:
How would you add strain on the transmission?.
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i wondered this

the only thing it would strain is the gear linkage if anything ? and im not even sure it would do that. Dont short shifters only reduce the ammount of throw required by the stick to move the gear linkage, and thus not apply any stress or forces on the gear linkage beyond what force you put on the gear lever ?
 
My car has a Skunk2 short shifter fitted, it was already on the car when I got it so I can't compare it to a standard ITR, but compared to my old SiR it feels great, just much more precise and quicker to shift between gears. I alo find it makes mis-shifting a much more rare occurence.
 
Tim said:
I meant gear synchros etc, which is part of the transmission?

Just ignore me if I'm talking rubbish:o
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have a look here

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/steering3.htm

its not the best explanation. But it shows you what a gear linkage looks like. Its just 2 big long rods that connect to the selectors inside the gearbox

by fitting a short throw kit, all of this is left intact and untouched. All your doing, is changing the ammount of throw required by the gearstick, to move those rods

so the crucial bits of the transmission, the gear selector and gear linkage etc.. remain the same. So by fitting a short throw kit your not putting any strain on anything

the only added strain, would be any extra force exerted by you throwing your car up and down the gears :)
 
Just to confirm, I was indeed talking rubbish:D

Tim says:
you know these short shifters?
Will says:
Yeah
Will says:
dont buy them,
Tim says:
puts strain on the gear syncros/linkages?
Will says:
no
Will says:
just waste of money and theres no real benefit.
Will says:
factory works!, and is designed to last
Tim says:
oh, sure i read it kills the linkages or syncros or something
Tim says:
hmm
Tim says:
cos of the faster change?
Will says:
Naah it doesnt kill the linkages but its a common cause of misshifts because of the change in throw distance
 
I've got a cheap one in the Impreza. Best thing I ever bought for it, only cost me ~£20.

It does make it harder to get into gear, and I do find myself crunching occasionally, but it makes other car gearshifts feel like you have to really reach to find the gears.
 
Drove my sisters 206 back to my parents last weekend and I understand what you mean. Also why the hell are the gear changes so noisy?

Is this just her car or is it a trait for all 206's?. Infact the whole car was really noisy felt like I was driving a diesel. The bite was instant though which was OK. But absoloutely no feel to things, very odd drive.

I couldn't get back in my car fast enough.

Sorry, I'm ranting.
 
Tom|Nbk said:
Drove my sisters 206 back to my parents last weekend and I understand what you mean. Also why the hell are the gear changes so noisy?

Is this just her car or is it a trait for all 206's?. Infact the whole car was really noisy felt like I was driving a diesel. The bite was instant though which was OK. But absoloutely no feel to things, very odd drive.

I couldn't get back in my car fast enough.

Sorry, I'm ranting.
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think this is how they all are, similar experience to you in the one I learnt in, almost as bad as the citroen c4 i done my pass plus in, something about french gearboxes perhaps.
 
Gearbox on the 205 feels like a bag of sick until you fit a quickshift. I have a GE one (they make them up the road from where I used to live) and it's really nice, the same as the second one in your pictures)
 
I've read of a few guys fitting the 2nd one, one guy fitted it, and it kept slipping out of place under hard gear changes.

After looking at the designs i'd probably choose the first one, although i've read in the GTi they are a PITA to fit, and i'd probably be best going with the 2nd one...
 
I had a B+M clone on the mondeo purchased from online auction which replaced the whole gear shaft with a shorter one and also the connectors to the linkages etc. I can't see how it can effect gearbox life or wear to be honest as it it only converts the exact same movement as stock, to a shorter stem. Anyways it worked well but obviously the springs that pull the gearstick back to neutral were the same, so with a shorter stick you have way less leverage and it became quite a bit harder for the missus to change into gear with it.

But one of my motivations was the fact that the lift up ring and stem were chrome so gave the whole thing a more modern look with a new momo gear knob.
 
i have short shifter and its great. But im not sure how one would work on a 206. After driving the '7 where you're low and the gearstick is quite high its just right, but i find that when driving hatch back the gearstick is quite low so shortening it would change the driving position significantly. but for £20 you cant go wrong
 
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