Quick vandalism question...

mcast123

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Long story short, a neighbour dispute about shared access to properties has been ongoing with my parents. My parents sre 100% backed up by law, police and lawyer confirmed.

The bloke now realises he can't win, has threatened my parents with death (police incident 1) and today keyed their car (police incident 2), it was caught on CCTV and has at least one independent witness. The witness has now been threatened. The police are going round tomorrow to confront him.

What will the police do, arrest him? What crime has he commited, vandalism? and what can he expect to get, fine?

Parents are now terrified :(
 
On personal experience with police dealings over the last couple of years, I wouldn't be too hopefull for anything more than a talking to.

These idiots make me so angry :(
 
Threatening your parents with death is far more serious than scratching their car, why aren't you pursuing that?
 
Good old neighbour disputes.... police love it!

Seriously though, you've got at least criminal damage. May even have Threats to Kill if your folks genuinely believe he's got the stones to mash them up. So he could be nicked for those. What happens in the police station and/or at court though (of it went that far) is a different matter!
 
JohnnyG said:
Threatening your parents with death is far more serious than scratching their car, why aren't you pursuing that?
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Police didn't seem too concerned, they said the worst thing that could happen to him was breach of the peace. I assume it was your word against his type thing.

The car scratching was caught on cctv, the police now seem very serious indeed.
 
JBuk said:
Did they have a serious looking facial exression?
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Yeah ok I get it, but when you've got this crap on your plate it isn't so funny.

Anyone ever get that red mist of anger over something? you know if it takes over you're going to jail, at the same time, your hands are tied.
 
Why not do one over on him? Sort things out the old fashioned way rather than get the fuzz involved
 
From a quick scan it appears your neighbour would be guilty of criminal damage and multiple instances of threatening behaviour which ought to be more than enough for the police to take it seriously. You can throw in a breach of the peace as well if you like but that's only going to be applicable normally in a public setting where he could cause distress or alarm - I'm not sure if that applies here and the other crimes are more serious.

All this over an access dispute as well, you've really got to wonder sometimes....
 
System_ofa_Down said:
Brick through his face?
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Ooh, harsh but effective :p Seriously though, what a tard. All that over access? Your parents must be pulling out their hair :( Best of luck getting a decent response from the police; don't act passive, PUSH for positive action and threaten to take it higher if the PCs don't seem that bothered.
 
mcast123 said:
Police didn't seem too concerned, they said the worst thing that could happen to him was breach of the peace. I assume it was your word against his type thing.

The car scratching was caught on cctv, the police now seem very serious indeed.
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In that case press charges against him for criminal damage, which it sounds like a no brainer you'll win, then keep a log of everything he does and says to your family after that in case it gets to the point when you have to ask for more help from the authorities:)

Edit: Von Smallhausen will have a far better response to this than most by the way...
 
I wish I had some information that would help you, but I don't, so instead I'll wish you and your family the best of luck in getting it all sorted out. :)
 
mcast123 said:
Long story short, a neighbour dispute about shared access to properties has been ongoing with my parents. My parents sre 100% backed up by law, police and lawyer confirmed.
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Right. So that is in hand albeit by means of civil law rather than criminal.

The bloke now realises he can't win, has threatened my parents with death (police incident 1) and today keyed their car (police incident 2), it was caught on CCTV and has at least one independent witness. The witness has now been threatened. The police are going round tomorrow to confront him.
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Threats to kill is an offence and he can be arrested for it although what you are arrested for and dealt with for can often differ.

For example, a complaint may be made of threats to kill but such an offence will always have to go through the CPS who may say there is enough evidence for a charge or that there is enough for a lesser public order charge such as Section 4 of the Public Order Act for causing fear or provocation of violence.

Alternatively, there may be insufficient evidence to proceed at all if there is insufficient evidence.

Keying the car is criminal damage and if it is caught on CCTV then all the better.

Threatening the independent witness, indeed any witness, is a very serious offence and if the evidence is there for a charge, it is usually accompanied by an application for a remand in custody.

What will the police do, arrest him? What crime has he commited, vandalism? and what can he expect to get, fine?
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Going by what you say he seems to have committed criminal damage, threats to kill / public order offences / harassment ( if more than two occassions ) and witness intimidation.

What police charge with, assuming the evidence is there, and what the punishment is at court is a lottery and something that the cops have no control over.

Below is not aimed at the OP.

Also, and it is part of the course sometimes, is that there is often insufficient evidence to make a case no matter how hard the cops try to build one and people can walk as a result.

Some people should remember this before they **** the cops off.

At those who think they have had bad service. Complain to the relevant authority. It's that simple.
 
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The cops won't do anything till someone is hurt.
Well thats the way it happend to my mom but I hope it does not go that far you
you want to call the main guy at the cop shop and complain loads.


EDIT= I just saw Vons post and as I said they won't do a thing till some one is hurt.
 
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