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R9 Nano Review thread
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Not looking for an argument and clearly I'm not defending Nano, if people could please ease off with the bs regurgitation even for the sake of this sub or more are going to leave.
Most people would not buy the nano to fit a normal ATX case even if it was cheaper. If you can get a nano with an equivalent price to a 980/390X I bet most would still buy those rather than the nano purely because the nano is restricted by the single power connector and small heatsink.
If, however you want a gpu for a small itx case then you may be limited to the 970/nano or any of the low end gpu's that would fit. Here is where the nano makes sense if you want max performance. Everyone knows where the nano is targeted but we will always get the rival fanboy's trying to make out that it's a failure and trying to dissuade people from it.
If, however you want a gpu for a small itx case then you may be limited to the 970/nano or any of the low end gpu's that would fit. Here is where the nano makes sense if you want max performance. Everyone knows where the nano is targeted but we will always get the rival fanboy's trying to make out that it's a failure and trying to dissuade people from it.
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Not looking for an argument and clearly I'm not defending Nano, if people could please ease off with the bs regurgitation even for the sake of this sub or more are going to leave.
You are picking people up who are negative towards the Nano and coming out with things like "Naivety, hate or plain old fashioned thick as... Halo product, it would be cheaper than FX if it wasn't."
Why accuse someone of those who are not sucking up on AMD? That to me is defence and you have done it all through this thread and I don't have a problem with that if you was buying one but you won't be, so jumping on people who are not chugging down the Nano is hypocritical when you have no intention of buying and then you throw in a tantrum about people leaving the sub forum... Grow up man, you are not a child.
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I genuinely would have an interest if the card was priced around the £250/£300 mark and would be looking to buy it. I like it but the current price and performance is just laughable at the asking price.
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Yup. 380/390 are really well priced, and I'm not too sure how well the Fury performs - The Fury X is decently priced I'd say, depending on how you play it's a fair tossup between that and the 980Ti - The Nano is just... Off. £400 would be a hit, £450 I could understand for the amount horsepower it packs in such a small space and how unique it is, but £540~ seems a little bit over the top.
For sub-300 the card would be directly competing with the 390X and with performance that is around the same would you really expect AMD to price it there with such low supply? It would also kill Fury Pro since it is effectively the same if not better than that.
250/300 ? Are you dreaming Gregster? I would maybe have expected 400 to 450 for a reasonable cost, but not 250 to 300 when this IS a fully enabled Fury, regardless of throttling. (And yes, I realize that it is your interest at that price, but that is literally just dreaming).
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You know you're just perpetuating the argument, right?
I think the difference here is that AIBs quietly slipped out the 970mini without much fanfare and its priced around the same as a normal 970... AMD massively bigged up the nano and made a big deal about its perf/watt in comparison to a 290X was it? Setting the expectation of 290X like performance you would assume the pricing would reflect that. So that to me is a key difference, that AMD themselves made a big deal of the nano which is why its now a hot topic.
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Fair comment and looking at the price of other cards, £400 would be more realistic but from a personal perspective, I wouldn't pay that either but it would only be going in a second PC, so I am not the person this GPU is aimed at and hence why my unrealistic price before I would consider it.
Pointless trying to state what price point you would buy at if you're not the target customer. It it clearly aimed at itx builds and even within that segment there will be limited people who want a gaming itx pc. Many, like myself, probably just use mediapc's for watching movies or surfing the net.I certainly wouldn't spend a lot of money for a 970-itx or nano when the media pc is only going to be used for non-gaming stuff.
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I see why you made the comment as I quickly went and looked at the price of the 970 mini as that sits in the price range. However, this card isn't on the same performance level as the Nano, so it really isn't a fair ask. It's like me saying I want a 980TI for 300 otherwise I won't buy it.
I completely understand that it is your personal preference though
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Maybe. I have said for a long time that I want to build a second PC but maybe me not wanting to spend that much on it is my thoughts. Who do you genuinely think will be the target audience for this? I can see the Micro builders buying of course but just not at that price, realistically thinking. What would be your price that would make you buy it?
I see why you made the comment as I quickly went and looked at the price of the 970 mini as that sits in the price range. However, this card isn't on the same performance level as the Nano, so it really isn't a fair ask. It's like me saying I want a 980TI for 300 otherwise I won't buy it.
I completely understand that it is your personal preference though
Yer, maybe I am the wrong person to be personally commenting on this card in fairness. Nothing about this card really has me going "wow" except for the size and performance it gives really.
My price? I would say 400/425. I do have to consider though that it includes a new memory tech that will be pricey to make (or at least the research was), so I don't think we will see that for a fair while. There is no way they could make it cheaper than the 390X though, it wouldn't make much sense (I don't think).
I have in my head that expensive cards must be big lol. It's hard for me to see value in something so small... but I have to keep reminding myself of how fast this card actually is.
EDIT: Not that it is really a fair comparison, I just looked and a straight $659 USD to GBP conversion yields 428 pounds (without applying the 6% tax in my state).
I have in my head that expensive cards must be big lol. It's hard for me to see value in something so small... but I have to keep reminding myself of how fast this card actually is.
EDIT: Not that it is really a fair comparison, I just looked and a straight $659 USD to GBP conversion yields 428 pounds (without applying the 6% tax in my state).
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I think the current price is expensive and should be around £400-£450 since it is slower than the 980ti and FuryX which can be fit in some itx cases. Imo the target audience is people who want to play games in their living room or those who want a tiny itx pc instead of some huge full tower case taking up space.
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Basically even people going for tiny ITX boxes can still fit in a Titan X or Fury X. Linus has a video fitting an 18 core CPU and Titan X/980Ti in a tiny PC ITX case. Why then would you buy a Nano? You'd have to be extremely insane to do so.
Whats the point in any small form factor GPU?
Clearly there is no circumstance where a GPU needs smaller than 10" or 11" long, or that anyone would want a smaller GPU.
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I would disagree there, compared to a Fury X it is
Hotter.
Louder.
Worse cooler.
Cheaper build with plastic instead of rubber.
Throttles.
lower clocks.
Not as good for a SFF build (the FX dumps heat of the case).
There is only one area where it is better than a Fury X, the Nano makes a better beer mat !!!
I would disagree there, compared to a Fury X it is
Hotter.
Louder.
Worse cooler.
Cheaper build with plastic instead of rubber.
Throttles.
lower clocks.
Not as good for a SFF build (the FX dumps heat of the case).
There is only one area where it is better than a Fury X, the Nano makes a better beer mat !!!
It doesn't take a lot for anything to be louder (Or Hotter) than the Fury-X with a low RPM Rad Fan, and that is a difficult thing to find space for in a VCR case.
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