Radeon RX 480 Nitro+ 4gb with FX 6300 as stop gap upgrade

AnthonyDublin · 14 Dec 2016 at 16:58

MyBrains said:
Check my sig, i have the 4gb Sapphire Nitro+.. ran GTA V well enough on pretty high settings and used less than 4gb of VRAM, about 3.5gb if i remember right.. BF1 Beta i had maxed out Ultra and i remember it using exactly 3.4gb of VRAM.. any issues then just lower AA.. Arma 3 uses less than 3.5gb VRAM while using x2 MSAA. This is all at 1080p.

The Sapphire card is fine as long as you dont wana max out every game you play.. but you're 5-6 hours a week gaming.. what you get out of spending too much on a system isnt gona be justified in my opinion.

The Nitro is a great card too, my temps never go over 60c, unless i run 3D Mark.

As for the memory, not much difference to be honest.. i have one of the fastest 480's in the benchmark threads by only overclocking the core to 1400.. on stock volts

You may get an upgrade itch down the line if you start playing more games more often anyway, makes sense right?

I came from a 7950 and im very happy with the performance, even though i'll be looking at baby Vega next year.

Im sure you're gona be more happier than me, going from a 7770 to a 480

Quality post, thank you so much. I'll be ordering the card asap.

Thanks for the other replies... Even the ones who didn't really read the full post

So... I'll throw the RX 480 in with my FX 6300 for now and enjoy the upgrade.
Then buy a skylake bundle in January and sell on the old MB, CPU, GPU and RAM. Make a few quid back.

Thanks again.

Seanspeed · 14 Dec 2016 at 17:08

Davedree said:
4gb 7000mhz
8gb 8000mhz

Quite a difference.

If buying a zboard with older bios the 6500 is clockable.

No, that's really not 'quite' a difference in actual real-world performance terms.

Especially not for a casual gamer.

Even I dont give a toss about ever messing with memory overclocking.

Davedree · 14 Dec 2016 at 17:25

Seanspeed said:
No, that's really not 'quite' a difference in actual real-world performance terms.

Especially not for a casual gamer.

Even I dont give a toss about ever messing with memory overclocking.

So you've never tried therefore have no experience with memory overclocking.
But both you and mybrains dont think theres any difference?

I'm done with you then as i've messed with rx470 4gb memory timings on custom bios, sure not all games scale but then some do.
And both my 970 and 1060 see gains in some games when overclocking the memory.

Very old review
http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2503-amd-rx-480-4gb-vs-8gb-benchmark-is-it-worth-it

Zethor · 14 Dec 2016 at 17:33

Don't mind the people suggesting to throw in 40-50 more euros for another 4gb Vram. Going 20% over a budget is apparently fine, particularly when the gain is 1-3 fps. :rolleyes:

Get the 4gb Sapphire Nitro+ and don't look back, it fits your needs perfectly.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-amd-radeon-rx-480-4gb-vs-8gb-review

Davedree · 14 Dec 2016 at 17:35

Zethor said:
Don't mind the people suggesting throwing in 40-50 more euros for another 4gb Vram. Going 20% over a budget is apparently fine, particularly when the gain is 1-3 fps.

Get the 4gb Sapphire Nitro+ and don't look back, it fits your needs perfectly.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-amd-radeon-rx-480-4gb-vs-8gb-review

Don't worry as you're only a casual gamer,
Just tweak the textures, AA and draw distance down as newer demanding games come along. When the spare money left over from selling old pc parts could fund the 40-50 euros.

Nasher · 14 Dec 2016 at 17:44

I really wouldn't get a 4gb card now. That isn't going to be enough for games yet to be released. You will only have to upgrade again sooner.

queamin · 14 Dec 2016 at 18:05

Depends how long he keeps it really.

AnthonyDublin · 14 Dec 2016 at 18:10

Logged in to buy it, thinking OCUK did free delivery. Found out it will come to 265 Euro to buy from here. I can get it cheaper elsewhere.

Davedree · 14 Dec 2016 at 18:25

Seanspeed · 14 Dec 2016 at 22:18

Davedree said:
So you've never tried therefore have no experience with memory overclocking.
But both you and mybrains dont think theres any difference?

I'm done with you then as i've messed with rx470 4gb memory timings on custom bios, sure not all games scale but then some do.
And both my 970 and 1060 see gains in some games when overclocking the memory.

Very old review
http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2503-amd-rx-480-4gb-vs-8gb-benchmark-is-it-worth-it

I dont bother because I've seen the results it brings. It's negligible, even for me, as an enthusiast gamer.

Anyways, you seem to the epitome of the kind of consumer who finds it impossible to understand that other people might have different priorities and opinions as them.

You're the exact kind of person that makes me turn any newcoming advice-seeking user elsewhere because I find this place totally full of out-of-touch PC users.

AnthonyDublin · 15 Dec 2016 at 09:20

Well I found the Nitro+ RX 480 for only 230 Euro (192 quid) including delivery (from Germany).
It will be here on Wednesday

MyBrainz · 15 Dec 2016 at 13:27

Nice price, mine was £210 from OcUK back in July.

If you dont like the fact that the 480 will use the 0db festure with the fans not spinning and idling around 50c (fans kick in around 60c on the Sapphire i think) you can always install MSI Afterburner and create your own fan profile like i have. Still very quiet when idle and not too loud under load.

My card never goes over 60c and idles around 26c with just 13% fan speed.. heres a pic my fan profile.

Enjoy your 480 :cool:

AnthonyDublin · 15 Dec 2016 at 17:02

MyBrains said:
Nice price, mine was £210 from OcUK back in July.

If you dont like the fact that the 480 will use the 0db festure with the fans not spinning and idling around 50c (fans kick in around 60c on the Sapphire i think) you can always install MSI Afterburner and create your own fan profile like i have. Still very quiet when idle and not too loud under load.

My card never goes over 60c and idles around 26c with just 13% fan speed.. heres a pic my fan profile.

Enjoy your 480

Thanks for the advice mate, I'll definitely do that.

Seanspeed · 15 Dec 2016 at 17:21

Davedree said:
So you've never tried therefore have no experience with memory overclocking.
But both you and mybrains dont think theres any difference?

I dont need to try something when I can see the impact in benchmarks. It's a pretty negligible difference.

The main point though is that a casual gamer, one who isn't even interested in having an overclockable CPU, is extremely unlikely to care about overclocking the memory on their GPU.

It seems very difficult for you to understand how people can think differently than you. You should probably work on that.

AnthonyDublin said:
Well I found the Nitro+ RX 480 for only 230 Euro (192 quid) including delivery (from Germany).
It will be here on Wednesday

Good find! Enjoy man.

Davedree · 15 Dec 2016 at 22:27

Seanspeed said:
I dont need to try something when I can see the impact in benchmarks. It's a pretty negligible difference.

The main point though is that a casual gamer, one who isn't even interested in having an overclockable CPU, is extremely unlikely to care about overclocking the memory on their GPU.

It seems very difficult for you to understand how people can think differently than you. You should probably work on that.

Good find! Enjoy man.

Remember I'm a casual gamer lol, How would you know to not need to try something if you haven't seen it, and as you worded it ''Even I dont give a toss about ever messing with memory overclocking''.
So here we go real world benches from my own 970,

Video

69fps @ 1430/3500 to 74fps @ 1600/3500. = 5-6fps made
74fps to 78fps @ 1600 3954 = an additional 3-4 fps made.
End result is 69fps to 78fps = 9fps gained with both memory and core.
Should I not overclock the core either because the gains are negligible too?
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3dmark firestrike shows the same scaling.

The op currently has an overclocked fx6300 so maybe he does have an interest in overclocking, just because the op and myself are casual gamers does that mean we can't tweak our hardware? An despite telling you already the i5 6500 can be overclocked if you bios mod an older z170 board.

Now back to my main point which wasn't even memory overclocking anyway.
I firstly made the point of current and future games requiring a greater frame buffer, subjective to user settings we both agreed on that.

You have the trouble understanding that I was only providing my experience and knowledge to state that with current/upcoming games the wiser choice would be to spend that extra for the 8gb. It's clear the op couldn't afford it as he couldn't afford the delivery charge. I told you in post 23 I was done with you, your post in 30 was totally childish and the fact you have then tried to get another reply out of me reposting again in post 34 shows you are either trolling or just trying to have the last word.
I suggest you should work on accepting that other peoples knowledge and experience or user requirements can sometimes be greater than your own.

Seanspeed · 15 Dec 2016 at 22:54

Davedree said:
Remember I'm a casual gamer lol, How would you know to not need to try something if you haven't seen it, and as you worded it ''Even I dont give a toss about ever messing with memory overclocking''.
So here we go real world benches from my own 970,

Video

69fps @ 1430/3500 to 74fps @ 1600/3500. = 5-6fps made
74fps to 78fps @ 1600 3954 = an additional 3-4 fps made.
End result is 69fps to 78fps = 9fps gained with both memory and core.
Should I not overclock the core either because the gains are negligible too?
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3dmark firestrike shows the same scaling.

The op currently has an overclocked fx6300 so maybe he does have an interest in overclocking, just because the op and myself are casual gamers does that mean we can't tweak our hardware? An despite telling you already the i5 6500 can be overclocked if you bios mod an older z170 board.

Now back to my main point which wasn't even memory overclocking anyway.
I firstly made the point of current and future games requiring a greater frame buffer, subjective to user settings we both agreed on that.

You have the trouble understanding that I was only providing my experience and knowledge to state that with current/upcoming games the wiser choice would be to spend that extra for the 8gb. It's clear the op couldn't afford it as he couldn't afford the delivery charge. I told you in post 23 I was done with you, your post in 30 was totally childish and the fact you have then tried to get another reply out of me reposting again in post 34 shows you are either trolling or just trying to have the last word.
I suggest you should work on accepting that other peoples knowledge and experience or user requirements can sometimes be greater than your own.

You're bringing up memory overclocking and Firestrike benchmark images.

Maybe you're a casual *gamer*, but you're definitely not a hardware casual. Which this person obviously is. It usually goes hand-in-hand, but not always, as you're showing. Just understand you're an exception, not the norm.

Davedree · 15 Dec 2016 at 23:10

Seanspeed said:
You're bringing up memory overclocking and Firestrike benchmark images.

Maybe you're a casual *gamer*, but you're definitely not a hardware casual. Which this person obviously is. It usually goes hand-in-hand, but not always, as you're showing. Just understand you're an exception, not the norm.

I remember you saying memory clocking provides negligible gains.
So yeah damn right i'm putting up my hitman video and firestrike scaling.
Not a word from you about it funny that must not like being put in your place I guess.
Yeah i'll go with this so called 'not a hardware casual' now lol, so can the op with his
Fx6300 clocked to 4.3ghz that could go higher.

Seanspeed · 15 Dec 2016 at 23:16

Davedree said:
I remember you saying memory clocking provides negligible gains.
So yeah damn right i'm putting up my hitman video and firestrike scaling.
Not a word from you about it funny that must not like being put in your place I guess.
Yeah i'll go with this so called 'not a hardware casual' now lol, so can the op with his
Fx6300 clocked to 4.3ghz that could go higher.

3-4 fps. Hahaha. That's your big argument here?

So yea dude, you're not making any kind of case whatsoever. The fact that you even understand this **** at all and care about a measly 5 fps would absolutely preclude you from being a 'casual' fan. Maybe you're casual on the software, but you're definitely a hardware enthusiast, cuz no 'casual' understands this stuff to this degree(though to be fair, you also seem to be lacking some understanding as well...).

Davedree · 15 Dec 2016 at 23:24

Seanspeed said:
3-4 fps. Hahaha. That's your big argument here?

So yea dude, you're not making any kind of case whatsoever. The fact that you even understand this **** at all and care about a measly 5 fps would absolutely preclude you from being a 'casual' fan. Maybe you're casual on the software, but you're definitely a hardware enthusiast, cuz no 'casual' understands this stuff to this degree(though to be fair, you also seem to be lacking some understanding as well...).

Read this gain as you have trouble reading I think.
Should I not overclock the core either because the gains are negligible too?

69fps @ 1430/3500 to 74fps @ 1600/3500. = 5-6fps made
74fps to 78fps @ 1600 3954 = an additional 3-4 fps made.
End result is 69fps to 78fps = 9fps gained with both memory and core.
Should I not overclock the core either because the gains are negligible too?

There's 2 fps disparity from my brilliant core oc vs the memory oc.
So if the core only provides 5-6 fps is this then negligible too, or should I clock both and gain 9fps?
In which case you shouldn't overclock the core the is that what you are saying?

Seanspeed · 15 Dec 2016 at 23:28

Davedree said:
Read this gain as you have trouble reading I think.
Should I not overclock the core either because the gains are negligible too?

69fps @ 1430/3500 to 74fps @ 1600/3500. = 5-6fps made
74fps to 78fps @ 1600 3954 = an additional 3-4 fps made.
End result is 69fps to 78fps = 9fps gained with both memory and core.
Should I not overclock the core either because the gains are negligible too?

There's 2 fps disparity from my brilliant core oc vs the memory oc.
So if the core only provides 5-6 fps is this then negligible too, or should I clock both and gain 9fps?
In which case you shouldn't overclock the core the is that what you are saying?

No dude, we were talking about memory overclocking in particular. So yea, you're definitely changing the goalposts here. Not to mention that you're talking about a bunch of stuff that your normal casual gamer isn't gonna give a crap about at all.

Give it up dude. Your opinion is irrelevant. And he's already bought the 4gb Nitro. Get over it and support the guy for making a decision that is going to massively improve his gaming instead of acting like dickwad who thinks they know better for others based on having little grasp of what other people care about.