Radeon RX 480 "Polaris" Launched at $199

SiDeards73 · 4 Jun 2016 at 11:11

Ferrari100 said:
Yes you do need to obviously. That equates to more power for less than £200 and better DX12 future proofing if you don't mind crossfire.

X fire isn't for everybody but I have lost count of the amount of posts I have spotted in various locations where people say they will buy two. These people could well be potential 1080 buyers looking for a better deal.

Actually I am dumbfounded how many times I read that.

A price/performance seed has been planted that will give > 1080 power at a fraction of the price.

Nobody would be considering that had that comparison not been made.

Whoever gave AMD that idea is genius.

I think most people that have been burnt by Xfire probably wont trust AMD by buying 2 x 480, however many people who have never dabbled in mgpu setups might make the leap with the cost of these cards and the potential performance they offer.

Ive had Xfire 280x and Xfire 290's, both worked fine when i had and used them, infact at one point i have 3 x 280X running in my PC and it worked fine for the most part, some games wouldnt use Xfire so i was running 1 GPU which im fine with if the performance from 1 is there.

Depending on how these cards come out i am fully prepared to buy 2 of them to tide me over til Vega lands, i dont play many modern titles excluding The Divsion which incidentally recently got its Xfire fired i believe, that and WoW which is CPU heavy anyhow, and a bit of D3 and Elder Scrolls, all the games i play run fine on my 290, so if this card beats my 290 performance then im happy

and should both run fine and i get even more perf then even better.

I think this card is exciting a lot of people to try out mgpu

henson0115 · 4 Jun 2016 at 11:12

Jono8 said:
Yes, and the AMD rep on reddit said scaling is actually 1.83 and that the multi gpu part of AOTS is "very robust"

and how exactly does that explain the 1080 Single Batch GPU Util: 98.7%? just trying to understand it.. edit:never mind, just put two and two together.. not had morning coffee yet..

SiDeards73 · 4 Jun 2016 at 11:14

Jono8 said:
380X in crossfire is as fast as a 980Ti and ~£150 cheaper but I didn't see that being recommended and bought over the 980Ti this generation so why should this be any different?

2x 8gb versions will be $460 and a 1080 is $600 so you are talking a difference of $140 which after VAT is ~ £115.

For that amount extra (assuming xfire 480X is only around a single 1080's performance - which is all we can deduce as that is the only official bench we have from AMD) )then it should be the single card solution all the way.

Thing is though, people can buy a single 480 and see how they fare with it, and as soon as the benchmarks land for mgpu / xfire for the 480's its a relatively small price to upgrade to another rather than jump to a 1080.

I do agree though a lot hinges on AMD actually sorting out Xfire, or devs utilising MGPU correctly. It will be a bit of a gamble

Jono8 · 4 Jun 2016 at 11:15

henson0115 said:
and how exactly does that explain the 1080 Single Batch GPU Util: 98.7%? just trying to understand it..

From what I understand, that is just the percentage that the gpu was at 100% usage. So 51% means for only 51% of the time the 2x 480's were at 100% usage BUT for 49% of the time they still might have been at, for example, 98% usage.

So it isn't very useful

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Destination · 4 Jun 2016 at 11:15

When will these cards launch, and what is the timescale for the other AMD offerings?

andybird123 · 4 Jun 2016 at 11:15

Ferrari100 said:
Lol. I'm no maths teacher but last I heard 2/3 is a fraction.

Also, I read that AMD may have announced a UK price of £160 for the 4GB version. With current 1080 prices is is much closer to half, if not exactly that.

By that argument £500 would still be a fraction of the cost being about 9/10ths, its not actually what people mean when they use that phrase though

SiDeards73 · 4 Jun 2016 at 11:16

Hikari Kisugi said:
When will these cards launch, and what is the timescale for the other AMD offerings?

All we know is the NDA ends 29th of June and Lisa Su has said they will be available on shelves on the 29th of June. We have only been shown the 480 and even then no real indication of its true performance.

Destination · 4 Jun 2016 at 11:18

Thanks Si

Ferrari100 · 4 Jun 2016 at 11:21

andybird123 said:
By that argument £500 would still be a fraction of the cost being about 9/10ths, its not actually what people mean when they use that phrase though

Im not ssure why you are arguing over what a fraction is.

Call it what you like.

1080 == around £600

2 x 480 @£160? - £200? with more power == £280 less or £200 less.

That is a significant saving if people want to crossfire for what could be a much more power.

OR

1 x 480 @£160? - £200? at over half the power for for waaay more than 50% less price

An amazing price for an entry level VR card with 390+ performance.

Its a no brainer for some people/enthusiasts. Not for everybody granted, but a seed has been planted and feedback suggests people are taking notice.

That is a good thing for AMD and a good thing for the gaming industry.

Some people are quick to pounce on AMD's historically poor marketing so lets balance the equation a little. 480 marketing has clearly been very, very good so far based on the amount of people talking about it in a positive way.

Jono8 · 4 Jun 2016 at 11:24

Ferrari100 said:
Im not ssure why you are arguing over what a fraction is.

Call it what you like.

1080 == around £600

2 x 480 @£160? - £200? with more power == £280 less or £200 less.

That is a significant saving if people want to crossfire for what could be a much more power.

OR

1 x 480 @£160? - £200? at over half the power for for waaay more than 50% less price

An amazing price for an entry level VR card with 390+ performance.

Its a no brainer for some people/enthusiasts. Not for everybody granted, but a seed has been planted and feedback suggests people are taking notice.

That is a good thing for AMD and a good thing for the gaming industry.

Some people are quick to pounce on AMD's historically poor marketing so lets balance the equation a little. 480 marketing has clearly been very, very good so far based on the amount of people talking about it in a positive way.

The very fact you are quoting £600 for the GTX 1080 price says everything to be honest. :rolleyes:

andybird123 · 4 Jun 2016 at 11:35

Ferrari100 said:
. 480 marketing has clearly been very, very good so far based on the amount of people talking about it in a positive way.

I think thats called confirmation bias.

straxusii · 4 Jun 2016 at 11:36

I'd never go multi gpu, never worth it regardless of AMD or Nvidia.

Any saving and performance benefit is dust when you play the odd title that doesn't support it and you're left with 55% the performance of the card you were aiming to beat.

SiDeards73 · 4 Jun 2016 at 11:42

Ok lets see

That is all the 1080 on offer on OCUK, the average price for a 1080 on OCUK is £614.34, so yeah actually the average price of a 1080 on OCUK is over £600

Edited to add, even if a 480 is £200, and 2 of them is more perf than a 1080, you are getting more perf for 2/3 of the cost of a 1080, this is all hypothetical of course, but in an ideal world where the 480 delivers that level of performance and xfire works, its a better option.

Ferrari100 · 4 Jun 2016 at 11:43

andybird123 said:
I think thats called confirmation bias.

How is it?

Please elaborate.

If people are gonna hate they should also acknowledge when something is done well.
I have offered criticism to AMD's marketing in the past. I will acknowledge when they do it right. Its called being fair.

Jono8 · 4 Jun 2016 at 11:44

SiDeards73 said:
Ok lets see

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus...dr5x-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-401-as.html £659.99

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus...dr5x-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-400-as.html £649.99

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/evga...ress-graphics-card-08g-p4-6180-gx-297-ea.html £635.99

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/evga...s-graphics-card-08g-p4-6286-kr-gx-300-ea.html £608.99

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-...dr5x-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-323-ms.html £649.99

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-...dr5x-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-320-ms.html £635.99

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/kfa2...ess-graphics-card-80nsj6dhk5vk-gx-087-kf.html £524.99

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/evga...s-graphics-card-08g-p4-6183-kr-gx-298-ea.html £578.99

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/evga...s-graphics-card-08g-p4-6188-kr-gx-299-ea.html £679.99

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-...dr5x-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-325-ms.html £679.99

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-...dr5x-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-324-ms.html £533.99

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/zota...s-graphics-card-zt-p10800a-10p-gx-098-zt.html £635.99

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/giga...aphics-card-gv-n1080xtreme-8gd-gx-183-gi.html £649.99

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pny-...dr5x-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-219-ok.html £619.99

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/evga...dr5x-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-303-ea.html £689.99

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/inno...graphics-card-c108v3-2sdn-p6dn-gx-061-in.html £569.99

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/kfa2...dr5x-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-088-kf.html £549.99

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/giga...phics-card-gv-n1080g1-gaming-8-gx-184-gi.html £608.99

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-...dr5x-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-321-ms.html £569.99

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/zota...s-graphics-card-zt-p10800b-10p-gx-102-zt.html £619.99

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/inno...-graphics-card-n1080-1ddn-p6dn-gx-060-in.html £619.99

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pali...dr5x-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-036-pl.html £619.99

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/gain...dr5x-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-203-gw.html £619.99

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/kfa2...dr5x-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-086-kf.html £619.99

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/zota...s-graphics-card-zt-p10800c-10p-gx-101-zt.html £578.99

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/inno...-graphics-card-n1080-1sdn-p6dn-gx-063-in.html £549.99

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/inno...graphics-card-c108v4-2sdn-p6dn-gx-062-in.html £589.99

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-...dr5x-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-326-ms.html £589.99

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pali...dr5x-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-037-pl.html £569.99

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-...dr5x-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-322-ms.html £605.99

That is all the 1080 on offer on OCUK, the average price for a 1080 on OCUK is £614.34, so yeah actually the average price of a 1080 on OCUK is over £600

So what? The cheapest is £525 ($599) which is what we are comparing it with (as the RX480 will START at $199 (4gb) and $229 (8gb)).

:confused:

The bias is strong here.

Ferrari100 · 4 Jun 2016 at 11:45

Jono8 said:
The very fact you are quoting £600 for the GTX 1080 price says everything to be honest.

Actually I said around £600 and if you take the mean value of what Overclockers are offering I am being very generous.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pc-components/graphics-cards/nvidia/geforce-gtx-1080

:rolleyes:

Jono8 · 4 Jun 2016 at 11:47

Ferrari100 said:
Actually I said around £600 and if you take the mean value of what Overclockers are offering I am being very generous.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pc-components/graphics-cards/nvidia/geforce-gtx-1080

More bias..

The 1080 starts at $599 / £525 here. The quoted RX480 MSRP will also be the STARTING price.

SiDeards73 · 4 Jun 2016 at 11:47

Jono8 said:
So what? The cheapest is £525 ($599) which is what we are comparing it with (as the RX480 will START at $199 (4gb) and $229 (8gb)).

The bias is strong here.

Ok even if you compare it to the £525 card (which i am guessing most people will buy to use under water looking at the design of it) even if the 480 is £200 then you are still £125 better off.

If the card they showed was the 4GB variant (dunno what version it was?) and they are infact £160 each, you are actually £205 better off, enough to buy a 3rd 480 and still have enough cash for a Pizza and some beers hahaha.

Fact is, the AMD pricing of the 480 is insanely good.

Ferrari100 · 4 Jun 2016 at 11:51

Jono8 said:
More bias..

The 1080 starts at $599 / £525 here. The quoted RX480 MSRP will also be the STARTING price.

I don't see one 1080 at £525 in the UK.
Its only fair to compare based on UK prices.
I think we know who the person being bias is here. Such a shame
:rolleyes:

Jono8 · 4 Jun 2016 at 11:52

SiDeards73 said:
Ok even if you compare it to the £525 card (which i am guessing most people will buy to use under water looking at the design of it) even if the 480 is £200 then you are still £125 better off.

Which is roughly what I said...

Taking the dollar MSRP price and 8GB for 8GB, the 480's would be ~£115 cheaper.

Personally I would rather have the single card if they do indeed perform similarly as the AOTS benchmark suggests.