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Radeon VII

Aretak said:
Depends. Are you only limiting things to reference coolers for some reason? Nvidia's are almost as hot and loud in that case. I wouldn't touch a reference cooler from either brand. If you mean the last great high end GPU that AMD made in general, it was Hawaii without question. The 290(X) still competes favourably with the 1060 and 580. Sure, it's a lot more hot and power hungry, but it's not like Nvidia's competition from the time was any different. It's just that nobody cares about the 780 Ti any more, because its performance nosedived off a cliff, whilst the 290(X) keeps on trucking.

Polaris was also a perfectly fine product for what it was/is. The PCIe power draw "issue" was massively-overblown even on the reference cards, and the third party ones just plain didn't suffer from it.
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Oh i agree, Polaris is a decent product and the PCIE issue was overblown, but it does seem every release AMD messes up at-least one thing.

And anyone who thinks that Fiji, and even Vega were acceptable products at release is deluding themselves, this is from a Vega owner, they were massively overpriced at release, i said that when they released. At £400 the Vega 64 is an awesome purchase.

At £500 the Vega7 would be an awesome purchase, at their current prices.... No... sorry... once they drop down in price next year on specials to £500-£550 they will be a decent buy, especially if we get some aftermarket cooled ones.

Also after watching Debauers video, its clear the AMD drivers dont work with these cards in an overclocking capacity at all.... If AMD manage to address that, then these cards will look a lot better, and add in the AMD finewine over time, these cards will be a solid purchase in 1 years time.
 
been trying to order 1 more elsewhere (same price but £6 delivery) and they took longer to sell out of the Saphire cards, asus etc sold out instantly

the saphire took 40 mins to sell out, all sold now, i couldn't get one from them , my bank thought i was a fraudster ! lol

at least Gibbo kept me one aside :D
got 1 coming tomorrow :D
 
Scougar said:
I don't know why anyone was expecting a miracle. It is an updated Vega with more memory. I did see them on a US supplier today, and was about to ask the wife if I could get one for my Birthday.... but they were out of stock d'oh! At $699 with 3 games... it's not a bad deal with present prices.

Wanna see the overclocks now!!!!!!
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Overclocking is broken on the current drivers, any attempt actually makes performance regress.
 
JediFragger said:
I disagree, I think it's quite the achievement for AMD :)
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Come on Jedi you cant be serious :) Dont get me wrong, these cards are awesome if you do any kind of compute work as well as play games... but if your main aim is gaming then no, these cards right now, at their price, no.... in a years time with a price drop, drivers that allow you to overclock, and some non reference models and the usual AMD finewine driver performance increase, these cards will be a solid purchase then.
 
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