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Radeon VII

Currently running 2 x 290's in my desktop but been using my laptop with a 1070 MaxQ to play games on my Vive as it's actually more powerful in games that can't use Crossfire.

Been looking to replace the crossfire setup and one of these is tempting if it's similar to a 1080ti / 2080 in performance.
 
Without wanting to make a statement lacking in scientific fact, I will propose that every AMD card I can remember has improved significantly in performance over its lifespan, whilst most nVidia cards, particularly at the high end, get forgotten about and tail off in comparison. AMD seek to improve their older cards whilst nVidia aim to make theirs obsolete once they have a new product line.

If the future reflects the past, the Radeon 7 will be competitive with the 2080ti in most games in about 12 months from now.

It'll be interesting to see how AMD's support does once we move away from the GCN architecture.
 
AMD will do their best but as production can typically take 4-6 weeks to hit maximum I would say worse case would be end of March.
I suspect the next wave will be 300-500 units due end of February, I suspect in March they will be able to ship us 1000-2000 units. :)

Good potential then, So are the 14nm Vega's no longer being made?
 
To be fair the that's the same argument one could apply to the next gen Nvidia series.

The 2080 is on par with the previous gen that's 2 years old but has proprietary RTX tech that we all know will go open source along the lines of MS DX RTX.

In the same way that Nvidia users can now use Freesync.

AMD are releasing a competitive product and that's all there is to it.


RTX us not proprietary in the slightest..Nvidia support open source Vulcan ray tracing, as well as Microsdt DX ray tracing.

AMD is perfectly free to support RTX using the exact same APIs

Why people keep spouting this nonsense I don't know
 
Good potential then, So are the 14nm Vega's no longer being made?

They were stopped over a month ago, it is why most competitors are now out of stock or charging very high prices.
Our stocks are very healthy, but at the same time we are now supplying our European partners with stock and getting business from USA, so we expect the product to be totally gone by April/May unfortunately which could give AMD some issues as NAVI is probably not coming on shelf until September time.
 
I'm considering a RTX 2060 purely because it offers a reasonable price/performance. Sure it's the same speed as a 1070Ti, but those weren't 329 when they were for sale.

If I was in the market for a 600-700 card right now I'd have a hard time picking the Radeon 7 over the 2080. 2080 is a good performer, wider selection of cards, better availability, some new tech in there (even if it's not great right now) and works with both gsync and freesync.
 
They were stopped over a month ago, it is why most competitors are now out of stock or charging very high prices.
Our stocks are very healthy, but at the same time we are now supplying our European partners with stock and getting business from USA, so we expect the product to be totally gone by April/May unfortunately which could give AMD some issues as NAVI is probably not coming on shelf until September time.

So once again AMD will have a missing product at that price segment (Fury/FuryX also went EOL long before a replacement).

They'd have to lower VII pricing to fill that gap, or simply just have nothing to offer at that price point.
 
Trades blows with a reference 2080, an FE 2080 should be ahead slightly in most stuff, of course AMD have a reputation for gaining additional performance more so with driver updates.


The problem with that is Radeon 7 is the same architecture and Vega64, so any gains will be minimal.
Compare to a 2080 which is a whole new architecture with significant back end differences.
 
Just about everything.

Same price/performance as a card that has been out for 2 years (1080ti).

I honestly have no idea what there is to get excited about.

True but it's also matching Nvidia's second fastest high end performing card today. Plus I feel more comfortable with it having double the memory, Why? It will make it a better secondhand purchase down the line.

Didn't stop Nvidia with the 2080, only you get less ram and higher prices lol.

Exactly.
 
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