RAF intercepts Russian Bombers

Amp34 · 20 Jul 2007 at 20:20

XPE said:
I heard they might be able to get 2 more out the goverment.

When was that? There was originally meant to be 12 then it was cut to 8, then the beginning of this year it was cut to 6 with a possibility of 2 more. :rolleyes:

So 6 replacing 12 ships, well done Gordon Brown...

XPE · 20 Jul 2007 at 20:28

Amp34 said:
When was that? There was originally meant to be 12 then it was cut to 8, then the beginning of this year it was cut to 6 with a possibility of 2 more.

So 6 replacing 12 ships, well done Gordon Brown...

I read something about the Royal Navy having to moth ball half the fleet for costs reasons in exchange the navy would get the other 2 type 45 as well as the 2 new aircraft carriers.

Amp34 · 20 Jul 2007 at 20:34

XPE said:
I read something about the Royal Navy having to moth ball half the fleet for costs reasons in exchange the navy would get the other 2 type 45 as well as the 2 new aircraft carriers.

Ah ok, I heard something about mothballing half the fleet but didn't realise it was in return for the extra two ships.

Again, Thanks Gordon Brown... :rolleyes:

233 · 20 Jul 2007 at 20:42

i'm hoping for an invasion

i wanna see one of these badboys in the flesh

has to be the most evil looking thing ever

add to that the fact its brissling with killing tools and Damn i want one

Ricochet J · 20 Jul 2007 at 20:46

What is it? An Apache or Merlin?

Indy500 · 20 Jul 2007 at 20:47

Mi-24 Hind :cool:

carries 8 troops as well as a variety of AA\AG missiles, rockets, a 50-caliber machine gun or 30mm cannon and flares.

Andr3w · 20 Jul 2007 at 20:50

at an airbase the other day i had an a-10 american tank destroyer fly over, dam that thing is loud!

Ricochet J · 20 Jul 2007 at 20:50

Think that's cool? Seen our Astute class subs and our Type 45 destroyers? Now thats :cool:

Edit: Andrew are they still in service? They look beefy!

Andr3w · 20 Jul 2007 at 20:56

Ricochet J said:
Think that's cool? Seen our Astute class subs and our Type 45 destroyers? Now thats

Edit: Andrew are they still in service? They look beefy!

Yes mate asfaik they are still in service, my friend just pointed out to me that they are used in afgan at the moment!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=gVp9NsYbxBU

Gonzo0 · 20 Jul 2007 at 21:15

I want the A 10 gattling gun

http://youtube.com/watch?v=sALiuWg_I1k&mode=related&search=

Andr3w · 20 Jul 2007 at 21:40

Gonzo0 said:
I want the A 10 gattling gun

http://youtube.com/watch?v=sALiuWg_I1k&mode=related&search=

Yeh i watched that, ouch :eek:

Goldy · 20 Jul 2007 at 22:05

Wow! It even breathes fire.

Haha, I love one of the comments below the vid:
"why havnt america won the war yet???? this guns bloody amazing"

Spud21 · 20 Jul 2007 at 22:20

Stolly said:
Lower RCS is but one consideration for the RAF who don't seem to have too much of a problem hanging unstealthy things off the Typhoon, so no i think i attach as much importance as needed.

Lower RCS is useful, like lower IR signature is useful, being the same colour as the background is useful, having the range to make it to the target and back is useful, being able to carry the correct weapons etc etc.

Its just one aspect of a sucessful aircraft and it may not even be the most important.

Exactly, to maintain the F-22's levels of stealth they have had to sacrifice in other areas, compared to the typhoon and many other aircraft the payload that an F-22 can carry is small as it's all stored in internal bays on rail systems iirc.

Stealth is one of a number of ways that fighter jets can avoid getting shot down, speed and manouverability is another, which is why the tornado ground attack variant is still on of the best around as on the deck it's quicker than any other fighter jet (unless something is now quicker, i know the tornado was the fastest a while ago).

As for the tornados bieng old well if it works it doesn't matter if what the Us are saying now is true then the B-52 will have been in service almost a century by the time it's due to be replaced which the Us reckon is at least 2040.

At the end of the day the thing is is that weather the F-22 is vastly superior to the Typhoon is irrelevant the only thing that was in any way necessary was that both jets could outperform the previous generation in almost every way, in tests the US were sending one or two F-22's up against 5 F-15's in senarios and from bit's i've read from pilots of the F-15's in multiple exercises the F-15's pilots said that they never actually saw the F-22 one saw the shadow of it after it had just wiped out the 5 F-15's, the Typhoon has a similar albeit slightly reduced ability against the best aircraft of the previous generation.

philio16 · 20 Jul 2007 at 22:24

Andr3w said:
at an airbase the other day i had an a-10 american tank destroyer fly over, dam that thing is loud!

I was on RAF Lakenheath the other day with my dad on the golf driving range and the were playing games with the F15s based there for fun....nosiy fun!! Forget fairford this is real stuff

Lady from the pub got friendly with one of the pilots too and got a tour of one of them :mad:

silversurfer · 20 Jul 2007 at 22:40

Andr3w said:
at an airbase the other day i had an a-10 american tank destroyer fly over, dam that thing is loud!

http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/a-10/images/a10_2.jpg

They are nicknamed the silent killer as well as warthogs, for some reason :confused:

USAF launched an entire squadron of planes flown without pilots the other day, each equipped with something like 12 hydras

In game:
http://media.putfile.com/Herd-of-warthogs

Over Clocker · 21 Jul 2007 at 14:05

Apparently (I say 'apparently' because I read this in the Daily Mail!) about 2 hours after the Bears were intercepted, 2 Tu 160 bombers were also intercepted on the fringes of British Airspace.

And the same also happed 2 days ago. ie 3 approaches in the last 3 days.

Pic below of the Tu 160 'Blackjack' bomber:

Story:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/li...ews.html?in_article_id=469893&in_page_id=1811

http://news.scotsman.com/uk.cfm?id=1138812007

XPE · 21 Jul 2007 at 14:19

Russians trying to rattle the saber imo

Gonzo0 · 21 Jul 2007 at 14:25

XPE said:
Russians trying to rattle the saber imo

Definately, i tihnk they are getting over confident about there ever growing economy so now they think they can try and take on the likes of America and Britain. Putin is now standing up against Bush whereas before he would do as he was told like a russian bitch!

silversurfer · 21 Jul 2007 at 16:33

Britain doesnt share a border with Russia so these aircraft must have been well known if NATO still exists.
Personally I dont think they should get that far but I presume they were always in the sights of friendly forces so considered no threat at all.

I hope we dont return to a cold war because these aircraft straying over borders can turn serious. In the past a 747 class passenger plane was shot down by the russians after crossing the border (bad navigation pre gps) and all were lost- the russians thought it was a surveilance plane

Andr3w · 21 Jul 2007 at 17:25

Pft after all the political conflict over the past week its just the russians way of saying they mean business. If **** does hit the fan we have tornado f3/gr4/typhoon/hawk(yes they are fighter jets as well) as well as a hell of a lot of these:

F-15e - about 2/5 of british air space defence is by americans :eek: