Amp34 quite clearly doesn't know what he's on about. He seemed blissfully unaware of what is available when he made that post in answer to mine. Even though he could have checked it was easily possible. Even more so when Housey it appears uses the same connections I use and have done for years. Kind of backfired in his face though now hasn't it.
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Amp34 quite clearly doesn't know what he's on about. He seemed blissfully unaware of what is available when he made that post in answer to mine. Even though he could have checked it was easily possible. Even more so when Housey it appears uses the same connections I use and have done for years. Kind of backfired in his face though now hasn't it.
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Actually, the Pacers (Class 142 - 144) were built in the mid-eighties.
It was the "Heritage" DMU's that were built in the late 50's/early 60's though few would argue these were far more comfortable than what replaced them.
The Pacers, Sprinters and 'Super' Sprinters are as basic as they come. The Pacers in particular are noisy, cramped and draughty, not to mention slow.
Things for the North are not going to get much better as there's a programme underway for D-Trains; basically old Underground trains (D78), refurbished and re-engined with two 3L Ford Transit engines (I kid you not!) for running on non-electrified lines...
Things for the North are not going to get much better as there's a programme underway for D-Trains; basically old Underground trains (D78), refurbished and re-engined with two 3L Ford Transit engines (I kid you not!) for running on non-electrified lines...
I apologise for taking NE Birmingham as "a small town nowhere near Birmingham on the main line"...
a train from Brimingham (new street station) takes more than the time you mentioned, the fastest one I can find (and could find prior to the previous post, is 1:22. A lot more than an hour. I did check, unfortunately I cannot read minds. 
My "facts" regarding travel time have all been correct so far, however yours hasn't (admittedly you were only 10 minutes out in your journey from your town - 1:10 according to national rail). There are always dead sports, there will be just as many around Birmingham and the NEC I'm sure.
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I apologise for taking NE Birmingham as "a small town nowhere near Birmingham on the main line"...
Geography is not your strongpoint is it.
10 minutes down the Birmingham Road is not what one would class as nowhere near.
That's about an hour and a half at the quickest to get into central Birmingham. I haven't checked to xordiums location though...
Then I've lived in London all my life.
I spent a large part of my life. I split it into the good and bad parts. Holborn was great - out past Stratford was awful. I hated the DLR and Central Line every day. I never miss that.
The point was that I didn't live I London*, but have lived near London much of my life. I don't say I live in London though.
Anyway we are miles from the point of the debate, that I believe that something built in London is going to be within an hours reach of more people than something built in Birmingham, whether that be by public transport or not. You may disagree, fine, we are all entitled to an opinion on the matter, but, as I've already said, it is an opinion. The only people that will know are those that commissioned the building of places like Wembley and the NEC who no doubt spent a lot of money on studies working out how many people live within XYZ distance.
Tbh though a major factor of Wembleys placement is probably historical, it's called Wembley and the home of football for a reason.
*its debatable whether I live in London now, I live in small town on the outskirts, but there are no fields in between, it's on the tube and its inside the M25 so...
Anyway we are miles from the point of the debate, that I believe that something built in London is going to be within an hours reach of more people than something built in Birmingham, whether that be by public transport or not. You may disagree, fine, we are all entitled to an opinion on the matter, but, as I've already said, it is an opinion. The only people that will know are those that commissioned the building of places like Wembley and the NEC who no doubt spent a lot of money on studies working out how many people live within XYZ distance.
Tbh though a major factor of Wembleys placement is probably historical, it's called Wembley and the home of football for a reason.
*its debatable whether I live in London now, I live in small town on the outskirts, but there are no fields in between, it's on the tube and its inside the M25 so...
What's NE, where? Other options could work better? I've always travelled for work more than and hour so tend to not stress about 15 mins here and there. I can however comfirm there WAS a 55 minute train from Brum Int to Euston and a 65 minute one from Stafford, because I used them! They are no longer running but you see why HS2 is horse **** to me...
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[TW]Fox;28229434 said:
Just for clarification, was that a serious question or were you trolling?
Top end of Sutton. Postal address quite clearly says "Birmingham" - Birmingham postcode.
I don't need to get to London much these days can do it all via videoconferencing etc and apps like Slack make managing stuff pretty painless in spread team locations etc. Besides I wouldn't leave here for the world, especially not for London - inner or greater.
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Ahh, so that'll be why I couldn't find any times and why his post didn't make sense originally.