Raising the age of adulthood to 25?

Seems pretty reasonable to me. An adult is someone who is 'fully grown or developed', and the idea that most people are that at age 18 is laughable.
 
This really is not about parents supporting their children, as obviously someone that is 18-25 is old enough to support themselves, though considering the severe lack of parenting nowadays, a little longer to deal with it might be beneficial.
 
The better answer would be to use an age that is appropriate for the task at hand. It's a strange notion because we all mature at a different rate, some never reach the threshold we would say was the base minimum, and each and every situation requires a different kind of understanding.

There is a reason when you are testing a child for Gillick/Fraser competence the threshold for consent to treatment and refusal of treatment are very different.

You can't place an age on such things really. A child who has lived through a sheltered life with little tragedy will never really understand the consequences to some actions because they have never seen the nature of trauma and loss to quantify it into their thought patterns. Therefore, their lack of forethought towards consequence may mean they don't reach a true adulthood till they are in their 30's. Conversely, another more tragic life could bring this realisation in the early teens. Noting there is a fundamental difference between verbalising and understanding true consequence.

18 seems about fine really. Anymore and you are restricting the very development and selfexploration that often teaches consequences safely and therefore facilitates maturity or adulthood.
 
I would prefer the age of adulthood to be lowered from 18 to 16, to be honest. Giving people a greater sense of responsibility I think is important and, anyway, do we change that much from 16 to 18? Personally I was the same silly sod at 16 as I was at 18. Of course, I'm no different now.
 
Monkeynut said:
I would prefer the age of adulthood to be lowered from 18 to 16, to be honest. Giving people a greater sense of responsibility I think is important and, anyway, do we change that much from 16 to 18? Personally I was the same silly sod at 16 as I was at 18. Of course, I'm no different now.
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I did way more drugs and drinking when I was 16, college was crazy, I calmed down a lot at university.
 
Jesus, me at 25 knows leaps and bounds more than me at 18... I wouldn't consider my self an adult at 18, but my mistakes turned me into the adult I am now.

If I was held in hand up until now, I will just make the same mistakes but later in life.
 
StriderX said:
This really is not about parents supporting their children, as obviously someone that is 18-25 is old enough to support themselves, though considering the severe lack of parenting nowadays, a little longer to deal with it might be beneficial.
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Exactly as they are 'obviously' old enough to support themselves it seems rather insulting to then treat them as children?
 
pitchfork said:
Absolute rubbish, 18 years old is an adult.

Kids today just don't want to grow up and their parents don't push them, when I was 18 I was doing fine by myself, not taking a penny from my parents and that's pretty much been the way ever since.
I went into education and it was my choice to do so, I didn't expect my parents to offer support like the entitled brats of today, I just got on with it and made it work, and it was character building, to know the feeling of not having a quid for a loaf of bread at times, was depressing, but ultimately, it made me learn how to manage my money and how to make ends meet against all odds. I'm better for it.

I've known guys in their 20's living with their folks not paying a cent toward the keep, not doing a bit of cleaning or washing, and even, in some cases, relying regularly on their parents for support.
"I can't afford to move out" usually translates into "I blow all my wages on designer clothes and gadgetry"

Child psychologists are all a bunch of idiots anyway, it's these same morons saying instilling a sense of discipline and routine is bad for development. Absolute hogswallop, it's that kind of mentality that is raising a bunch of entitled brats who don't understand actions have consequences.
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Spot on.
 
As im only 21 my point might be biased, but i disagree that the age of 'adulthood' (do you mean legally - smoking, drinking, voting etc?) should not be raised. If you mean socially, how people think of young adults (18-25), why bring it up? People have their own opinions and a lot of people will treat people under 25 as less adult than themselves at 30, 35 or whatever, others wont. You don't need an official stance on the matter.

However i do occasionally see 18 year olds that i think are just utter children so there's that.

Either way don't mess with the laws, maybe if they legalize marijuana or something then an age restriction of 21, but saying you need to be 25 to do anything (you point of buying a house / working... wtf?) is ridiculous.
 
Is this another excuse to take rights away from young people and make em "pay for the fact they ruined the country"?

Just like getting tax credits is not possible at under 25's etc..
 
Multi-generational living?...


*shudder*


Some people mature slower than others, others faster. Not being classed as an adult until the age of 25 would be insulting.
 
pitchfork said:
Absolute rubbish, 18 years old is an adult.
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It depends how you define being an adult.

PMKeates said:
Seems pretty reasonable to me. An adult is someone who is 'fully grown or developed', and the idea that most people are that at age 18 is laughable.
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I'd tend to agree with PMKeates, in that at 18 most people are still clearly 'developing' - in fact the article itself says there is evidence to back this up. Hence the suggestion that at least 'biologically' the age of 25 would be more appropriate.

"Neuroscience has made these massive advances where we now don't think that things just stop at a certain age, that actually there's evidence of brain development well into early twenties and that actually the time at which things stop is much later than we first thought," says Antrobus.

There are three stages of adolescence - early adolescence from 12-14 years, middle adolescence from 15-17 years and late adolescence from 18 years and over.

Neuroscience has shown that a young person's cognitive development continues into this later stage and that their emotional maturity, self-image and judgement will be affected until the prefrontal cortex of the brain has fully developed.

Alongside brain development, hormonal activity is also continuing well into the early twenties says Antrobus.
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pitchfork said:
Kids today just don't want to grow up and their parents don't push them, when I was 18 I was doing fine by myself, not taking a penny from my parents and that's pretty much been the way ever since.
I went into education and it was my choice to do so, I didn't expect my parents to offer support like the entitled brats of today, I just got on with it and made it work, and it was character building, to know the feeling of not having a quid for a loaf of bread at times, was depressing, but ultimately, it made me learn how to manage my money and how to make ends meet against all odds. I'm better for it.

I've known guys in their 20's living with their folks not paying a cent toward the keep, not doing a bit of cleaning or washing, and even, in some cases, relying regularly on their parents for support.
"I can't afford to move out" usually translates into "I blow all my wages on designer clothes and gadgetry"
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But here your suggestion seems to be that you need to be an 'adult' to do these things.

All the article is saying is that biologically you're still in 'adolescence' at 18 and so from a psychologists point of view, should be dealt with differently to 'adults'.

In terms of being able to 'do fine yourself', it isn't suggesting that such things can't be achieved during 'adolescence'.
 
This is stupid.
Physically, the body is developed at 18. That's why they chose adult at 18, not because people suddenly become responsible. I think some people in this thread need a reality check and stop using psychological defects as a means to judge if people are an "adult".

I honestly have no words for this utter ****.
 
codec said:
This is stupid.
Physically, the body is developed at 18. That's why they chose adult at 18, not because people suddenly become responsible. I think some people in this thread need a reality check and stop using psychological defects as a means to judge if people are an "adult".

I honestly have no words for this utter ****.
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Physically perhaps, but not mentally. The brain develops into the 20's.

Why are you getting so angry? Maybe you need to see a shrink ;)
 
Presumably these are the same psychologists that think it is fine to load up teenagers with antidepressants. They are teenagers! The are supposed to be depressed!
 
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