Ram pricing
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Impossible to say without detailed business knowledge on availability of parts, schedule of production, what demand is like from everyone who wants chips (Not just PC sticks), what currency fluctuations might be etc. There are so many variables can impact on the prices at every stage of the supply stage that anyone who comes on here and gives you a definitive answer is lying to you and they no more can be certain of what the price will be than they can be certain about tonight's lottery numbers.
Just thought that somebody might be following the pricing and have an idea, but ty for your straight answer.
There are major problems with the PC market right now:
1. DDR4 pricing too high. Availability too low, demand relatively high;
2. 4K monitors pricing too high. Availability too low, demand will only improve;
3. Notebooks with 4K displays again too expensive. Specifications relatively poor. Availability of different models on the low side, demand and interest by customers will only improve.
Does anyone work on solving these major issues?
1. DDR4 pricing too high. Availability too low, demand relatively high;
2. 4K monitors pricing too high. Availability too low, demand will only improve;
3. Notebooks with 4K displays again too expensive. Specifications relatively poor. Availability of different models on the low side, demand and interest by customers will only improve.
Does anyone work on solving these major issues?
Soldato
wouldn't say those were major problems. ddr4 is still new with relatively small uptake currently.
4k runs into the same sort of issues and wont take off until mid range gpus can hit that resolution consistently, given were only now at that stage with 2k res, its going to be a while.
4k runs into the same sort of issues and wont take off until mid range gpus can hit that resolution consistently, given were only now at that stage with 2k res, its going to be a while.
RAM pricing has always been very volatile,
While cleaning out my office last week I found an invoice the other day from OcUK from February 2007 for some DDR2:
GeIL 2GB (2x1GB) PC6400C4 800MHz Ultra Low Latency DDR2 Dual Channel Kit (GX22GB6400UDC) 1 £114.99 (£135.11)
I found a second invoice for some RAM from April 2008 also from OcUK:
GeIL 2GB (2x1GB) PC2-6400C4 800MHz Ultra Low Latency DDR2 Dual Channel Kit (GX22GB6400UDC) 1 £23.99
While cleaning out my office last week I found an invoice the other day from OcUK from February 2007 for some DDR2:
GeIL 2GB (2x1GB) PC6400C4 800MHz Ultra Low Latency DDR2 Dual Channel Kit (GX22GB6400UDC) 1 £114.99 (£135.11)
I found a second invoice for some RAM from April 2008 also from OcUK:
GeIL 2GB (2x1GB) PC2-6400C4 800MHz Ultra Low Latency DDR2 Dual Channel Kit (GX22GB6400UDC) 1 £23.99
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back then there wasn't as much demand for SSD's, GPU's with up to 12GB of RAM, mobile phones with 32GB-128GB of memory and up to 8GB of RAM.
basically memory is in high demand now and in much larger numbers than ever before. my mobile has 6GB of RAM in it for instance and people buy new mobiles every 12 months. Every man and their dog has a tablet plus another 2 for the kids. kids also now have mobile phones these days unlike 2007.
Demand is just growing bigger and bigger everyday. I don't see it ever getting cheaper unless another recession happens but even then people will keep buying latest phones, tablets, etc as they are seen as necessities.
I can only see prices going 1 way.
Ram pricing is I agree ludicrous. I recently bought 64gb ddr4 and it was easily one of the most expensive parts of the system. You would hope that as ddr4 production improves that prices would fall but these days that isn't even necessarily the case, everybody seems to be finding reasons to inflate pricing rather than make it more attractive. The whole pc market is doing it and it pretty much stinks.
Old Man,
Ram is a commodity that has always experienced large price fluctuations, the trick just like any other commodity is to buy low and sell high. I've followed the memory market for about 15 years and I can defiantly see a pattern. Right now the best memory from an investment point of view is 16GB kits of fast and low voltage DDR3 (2133MHz, 2400MHz and faster). From the pattern that I have personally experienced the time to invest in DDR4 is when its around half the price of DDR3, so in the case example above people who own 16GB Kits of fast ULV DDR3 will be able to sell them and buy 32GB of fast DDR4 for approximately the same money. I just dived through all the current memory prices last night and it seems DDR4 is commanding a price premium over DDR3 so for me that means it's not the right time yet to sell up and move onto a DDR4 platform . . . at least from an investment point of view.
I've got no data points on DDR4 other than what the market is right now. It would be useful to know if DDR3/DDR4 have had a price parity since DDR4 was launched or has DDR4 always been more expensive than DDR3?
Ram is a commodity that has always experienced large price fluctuations, the trick just like any other commodity is to buy low and sell high. I've followed the memory market for about 15 years and I can defiantly see a pattern. Right now the best memory from an investment point of view is 16GB kits of fast and low voltage DDR3 (2133MHz, 2400MHz and faster). From the pattern that I have personally experienced the time to invest in DDR4 is when its around half the price of DDR3, so in the case example above people who own 16GB Kits of fast ULV DDR3 will be able to sell them and buy 32GB of fast DDR4 for approximately the same money. I just dived through all the current memory prices last night and it seems DDR4 is commanding a price premium over DDR3 so for me that means it's not the right time yet to sell up and move onto a DDR4 platform . . . at least from an investment point of view.
I've got no data points on DDR4 other than what the market is right now. It would be useful to know if DDR3/DDR4 have had a price parity since DDR4 was launched or has DDR4 always been more expensive than DDR3?
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I think eveyone complains but every weeks there is something else to complain about. People are losing track and prices are going up like crazy.All PC components can be viewed as commodity. RAM isn't anything special. The problem lies only in RAM prices.
No one complains right now about CPU prices or HDD prices, or cases pricesBecause they are fine.
I don't agree . . . How many PC components can you buy and use for three years and then sell for more money than you paid? Graphics card? CPU? SSD? I would say RAM is something special in that regard. I'd also say the problem isn't the RAM prices but the market at the time you wish to buy. Most people don't like to see the value of their hardware plummet and I would say most people get a warm fuzzy feeling when they buy some hardware and its value rockets!
I wouldn't mind a play with some DDR4 systems right now but I believe I would be throwing money down the drain just because I'm not patient enough to buy at the right time. What is the desperate need for DDR4 unless one is just starting out and has no system?
It skyrocketed simultaneously with Ryzen's launch earlier this year. Should we blame Ryzen lol
Just adding some links here so I can come look in early 2018 to see whats changed . . .
I'd say hold off splurging on DDR4 until it's about £80 for 16GB . . . if you can wait that long!
- Team Group Vulcan RED 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-17100C11 2133MHz Dual Channel Kit £59.99
- Team Group Vulcan RED 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit £100.99
- Team Group Vulcan T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-19200C14 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey £139.99
- Team Group Vulcan T-Force 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-19200C14 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey £239.99
I'd say hold off splurging on DDR4 until it's about £80 for 16GB . . . if you can wait that long!
It is crazy - i got a 32gb kit of ddr4 a few years ago for less than you can get an equivalent 16gb kit now.
Same with SSD's. Got a 750gb SSD for ~£100 and a 960GB one for ~£130 not that long ago. Nowadays even some of the 240gb ones are pushing near £100!
Same with SSD's. Got a 750gb SSD for ~£100 and a 960GB one for ~£130 not that long ago. Nowadays even some of the 240gb ones are pushing near £100!
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Just adding some links here so I can come look in early 2018 to see whats changed . . .
- Team Group Vulcan RED 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-17100C11 2133MHz Dual Channel Kit £59.99
- Team Group Vulcan RED 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit £100.99
- Team Group Vulcan T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-19200C14 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey £139.99
- Team Group Vulcan T-Force 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-19200C14 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey £239.99
I'd say hold off splurging on DDR4 until it's about £80 for 16GB . . . if you can wait that long!
16Gb DDR4 were around £80 not long ago, in May I think.
Last time I bought SSD i paid £100 for 750 Gb.
At one point ram was nothing you just put anything in and it worked. But now ram make real difference to your systems performance and the makers are cashing in.
I have been looking at ram and tbf I think 16gb of budget ram for £139 is disgusting.
I have been looking at ram and tbf I think 16gb of budget ram for £139 is disgusting.
I bought 16GB of DDR4 in October 2014 for £213 for my X99 system when it was new and super pricey and then another 16GB for £65 in June 2016. Although the kits I bought has been phased out (HX424C12PB2K4/16) it appears the equivalent amount of RAM is costing almost just as much today.