RAM - value to frequency and timings thread

[Guest2]

I'll try and keep it simple
Post your RAM, default and overclocked timings and the price

Should help others when deciding on RAM to purchase e.g. if its better to go for higher frequency, looser timings or tighter timings lower frequency. There must be a point where its not worth spending loads of money e.g. £400+ to get minimal gains

RAM make and model - Team Group Edition 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C16 3600MHz Dual Channel Kit
Default MHz & timings - 3600Mhz, 16-16-16-38
Overclocked MHz & timings - 3800Mhz, 14-15-13-28
Price - £218.99
Order date - 26/10/20

 

[Joxeon]

Diminishing returns kicks in around 3200/16 so you're not gaining much going over that especially @1440p or above.

 

[Guest2]

Diminishing returns kicks in around 3200/16 so you're not gaining much going over that especially @1440p or above.

Why doesnt everyone go for 3200/16? I thought Ryzen "sweet spot" was 3600 although there is Ryzen specific (or marketed at Ryzen 5000 series) that is DDR4000

What 3200 kit do you have, along with price paid?

 

[Ree]

There must be a point where its not worth spending loads of money e.g. £400+ to get minimal gains

It could be argued that what you have is exactly this.

I had the 8 pack ripped ram and have sold them and now have 3200/C16 and there's not much difference other than getting double the amount of ram and also being cheaper. Paid £100 for 16Gb ripped vs £76 for 32GB of the ram i have now.

 

[Guest2]

It could be argued that what you have is exactly this.

I had the 8 pack ripped ram and have sold them and now have 3200/C16 and there's not much difference other than getting double the amount of ram and also being cheaper. Paid £100 for 16Gb ripped vs £76 for 32GB of the ram i have now.

Once I went from C16 to C14 im also certain general desktop use felt slightly snappier. Granted this is not the best use of RAM but as I spend most my time browsing and sifting through the OS for files/folders it feels better.
What RAM do you have, timings and benches? £76 for 32GB is rather cheap! I didnt even know you could get 2x16GB sticks for £76

 

[Ree]

Once I went from C16 to C14 im also certain general desktop use felt slightly snappier. Granted this is not the best use of RAM but as I spend most my time browsing and sifting through the OS for files/folders it feels better.
What RAM do you have, timings and benches? £76 for 32GB is rather cheap! I didnt even know you could get 2x16GB sticks for £76

Its just ordinary nothing special Hynix CJR 16-18-18 (I bought them to troubleshoot my ram but it turned out to be a failed CPU which got rma'd). I just saw the price and jumped on them then when I put them in my pc after a few days I was like what's the point in keeping the 8 pack ram it's helluva expensive for minimum gains. Sure it will out bench it and maybe add a couple of fps but for the price difference it's certainly not worth it imo. One thing i do like is they actually have temp sensors unlike the 8 pack stuff.

 

[Joxeon]

Why doesnt everyone go for 3200/16? I thought Ryzen "sweet spot" was 3600 although there is Ryzen specific (or marketed at Ryzen 5000 series) that is DDR4000

What 3200 kit do you have, along with price paid?

I'd imagen most people do go for 3200/16 or 3600/18 which are similarly priced but you will always get the people who will pay double for that extra couple of % although you can still get that extra % with slower ram via manual overclocking yourself. I remember watching buildzoid overclock some dirt cheap 2400mhz ram to 5000mhz.

 

[GregI]

The more I think about it the 3600 recommendation from YouTubers etc is more for 1080p players to catch a wider audience and it's generally the same price when we talk about 3200c16 and 3600c18. I was able to gain 25 more fps in Overwatch 1080p by going from 3200 to 3600 when prioritising max frames so in the case of competitive gaming > 240 fps then 3600 is a no brainer.

If a thread like this does get popular it's going to turn into such a hassle to find pertinent info. You would need to do it via spreadsheet or something when collecting screenshots.

I thought the times of people buying DDR4 at ridiculous prices would be over but ocuk has sold 5 kits of the ripped last week for £218 so what do I know...

I can only really talk for UK pricing but if you are ok with 16GB then getting a B-Die 3200C14 kit is a pretty safe bet. Even in recent times I've seen them go for about £110 (Flare X) elsewhere which I know is still more expensive than buying your standard 16GB 3200C16 at like £70 but the increased flexibility of being able to try different speeds is pretty handy.

Actually scratch that OcUK has the Patriot Viper 4400 kit for £109.99 right now. Potential 3600C14-3800C14 32GB for £220.

I've got some TeamGroup 32GB 3600C14 ARGB White coming TF13D432G3600HC14CDC01 and that was £294. I could barely justify this but read some reviews of it hitting 4400C16 at 1.50v and staying below 38c which is pretty insane.

 

[Rroff]

Once I went from C16 to C14 im also certain general desktop use felt slightly snappier. Granted this is not the best use of RAM but as I spend most my time browsing and sifting through the OS for files/folders it feels better.
What RAM do you have, timings and benches? £76 for 32GB is rather cheap! I didnt even know you could get 2x16GB sticks for £76

Something that often gets overlooked with Ryzen is that there tends to be frequency/latency combinations that work best and higher numbers aren't necessarily better and can result in noticeable microstutter type effect on games, etc. even when the benchmark numbers are higher. Unfortunately I'm not overly familiar with the ins and outs of it.

 

[nlel1975]

I read that at 1080p faster RAM = higher FPS but at 4K your GPU becomes the bottleneck. So if you want to game at 4K get the cheapest RAM you can and put the savings towards a better GPU.

 

[FredFlint]

I have just gone from 4*8GB G-SKILLS 3600 to 4*16GB LPX 3000 as I swapped RAM from my old Intel PC into my AMD PC and have not noticed a difference in performance, probably need to run benchmarks to tell.