RAM XMP profile going to BSOD

[Tetras]

Thanks all. Well that kind of sucks, so my CPU is also a problem? I think I'll leave them stock, everything runs smooth so what's the point in risking instability.

It might be, it might not be. AMD set a lower baseline for 4 sticks so presumably some CPUs can't make those speeds.

Either way, XMP won't be optimised for 4 sticks and is unlikely to work with one-click, so at the very least you'd have to do some manual tuning as Sonic suggested.

If you can hit something in the 3000 region, most of the performance loss will be minimised. Running memory at a base speed like 2133 is to be avoided on Ryzen.

 

[ninjag]

Can you not return the RAM and get a 32GB (2 x 16GB) kit?

I could ask, I bought it from here. Not sure where to do that though? I think the 16GB kits that were compatible were out of stock, hence going for the 4 sticks. The question I keep asking myself is, will I really notice a difference with XMP profile enabled?

 

[ninjag]

It might be, it might not be. AMD set a lower baseline for 4 sticks so presumably some CPUs can't make those speeds.

Either way, XMP won't be optimised for 4 sticks and is unlikely to work with one-click, so at the very least you'd have to do some manual tuning as Sonic suggested.

If you can hit something in the 3000 region, most of the performance loss will be minimised. Running memory at a base speed like 2133 is to be avoided on Ryzen.

I think it's 2666 MHz they are currently running at. Would I really notice 3000 compared to 2666?

 

[Tetras]

I think it's 2666 MHz they are currently running at. Would I really notice 3000 compared to 2666?

Ahh, that's better.

It depends on how CPU bottlenecked you are, probably not much, but it will have some impact on the framerates overall, the most noticeable being the lows.

Personally, I'd still pick 32GB running at 2666 over 16GB at 3200, for example.

 

[freddie64]

I could ask, I bought it from here. Not sure where to do that though? I think the 16GB kits that were compatible were out of stock, hence going for the 4 sticks. The question I keep asking myself is, will I really notice a difference with XMP profile enabled?

Ask for RMA here.

Customer Support Returns

Think i would see about swapping for this kit seeing as options are low and it is on the compatible list.

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Kingston Fury Beast 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MY-295-KS) = £119.99

Total: £123.98 (includes delivery: £3.99)​

 

[ninjag]

Ahh, that's better.

It depends on how CPU bottlenecked you are, probably not much, but it will have some impact on the framerates overall, the most noticeable being the lows.

Personally, I'd still pick 32GB running at 2666 over 16GB at 3200, for example.

Thanks, I agree that I would rather have slightly slower 32GB.

 

[ninjag]

Ask for RMA here.

Customer Support Returns

Think i would see about swapping for this kit seeing as options are low and it is on the compatible list.

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Kingston Fury Beast 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MY-295-KS) = £119.99

Total: £123.98 (includes delivery: £3.99)​

Cheers. That was the only other one I saw but as my old sticks were Kingston and I wasn't sure if it was the RAM that was the problem I didn't want to get Kingston again. It's now turned out not to be hardware related, but going by previous comments here and that I might not get the full 3600 anyway, is it worth the hassle of trying to return it?

 

[Alexrose1uk]

If it makes you feel any better, I have an Alderlake 12400 based system, it'll overclock really nicely on the CPU with the Mortar Max BCLK modifier capable board I got (5+GHz all core up from 4GHz), but it won't run memory at 3600MHz to save its life, even with 2 sticks, and Intel locked the required voltages down so you can't even bump all the necessary voltages to get it stable. I can about get it to 3333/3366, but any higher and you start developing longer term issues.

There's a lot of people running Alderlake DDR4 systems with 3600MHz or even higher, but as I discovered anything above 3200MHz is complete pot luck, especially on the non-K CPUs. Shame as it was a nice 3600C16 kit too.

Next time I'm on the machine, I'll have to see what I ended up leaving at and whether it was even on G1!

 

[SonicSW20]

Cheers. That was the only other one I saw but as my old sticks were Kingston and I wasn't sure if it was the RAM that was the problem I didn't want to get Kingston again. It's now turned out not to be hardware related, but going by previous comments here and that I might not get the full 3600 anyway, is it worth the hassle of trying to return it?

I would shoot for 3000-3200MHz if you have an afternoon spare to validate it as stable. Ryzen likes memory speed when it can get it and on AM4 at least, ~3200MHz is where you start to get into diminishing returns for the amount of time put in if its not immediately stable.

 

[ninjag]

Cheers all, I'll have a think. I'm not sure I could take another BSOD lol

 

[Alexrose1uk]

Completely understandable - as one Youtuber puts it 'What's the Goal?' - and in this case it's getting your machine usable and an acceptably, decent speed.
Sometimes its better to settle at a stable clock, than go for to the wall of what can be achieved, as you've got no stability margin and you're going to encounter more issues; its no good getting an extra 3% minimum FPS, if you're getting an extra 300% unexpected bluescreens and its impacting the use of your PC

Trust me, I know the feeling, that 3600MHz kit mentioned above was a good C16 Ballistix kit. It hurt knowing intel locking certain voltages meant I'd only ever be using it at 3375 at most, but the extra 200MHz was not worth the stability loss.