Re-mapping a 206
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2.0 HDI Not just from a remap, with an added FMIC, uprated clutch.
125 can be seen without any mods bar the remap itself, and maybe 130 with decat/panel filter
No im actually serious for once.
Please go ahead then.
The first stage of tuning your HDi is a remap. This will see you anywhere from 115-125BHP with around 200Lbft (270NM) of torque
The next step up from this is adding a intercooler to the standard HDi setup as the 90BHP version never came fitted with one as standard.
You will require a custom map and the turbo adjusting to ~20-22psi
Results from this are anything upto 165BHP and ~310LBft (420NM) of torque
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90BHP to 155BHP after a £95 tweak.
Being serious about it doesn't mean it's actually true!
I thought remaps come after you've done all the mechanical modifications. The whole point of a remap is to make use of the extra fuel/air etc the modifications allow.
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No I was right, you can't get that from just a remap. Other mods are needed.
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Thats a cheap remap, too cheap, it cost me £480 to go from 150bhp to 195bhp, this seems the ballpark price for a proper remap.
As ive said Firestar, they are not a money grabbing tuner, theyve worked with people in the pug scene and the guy who runs it is a 306 enthusiast, a lot of the people in the site/scene running the quickest 306s dervs they chat all day long about the differences and there are none hes worked on his maps over a period of years and keeps prices down to help the community.
Depends on the car, thats why they name them in stages, As standard with an intercooler the same engine does 110bhp on the standard map i think its the xsara that has the engine.
Much like the 1.9td 306 you can search and verify this on google that they were actually detuned and thats why the popular wastegate/turbo boost came about.
My speculation is that the HDI has also been underpowered due to know intercooler.
Also some people may use the map without telling insurers, as theres no physicaly change to the car.
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Someone here has a proper remap and a better intercooler and which was good for 130BHP.
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these HDI engines are turbo diesels still though arent they ?
so they're probably just upping the boost, and then upping the intercooler to cope with the added temperature increase.
The 90bhp HDI engine was built for economy, not power, so i can easily understand how you can get 60bhp out of a Turbo Diesel that was originally mapped for economy.
the extra 30bhp on top of the 120bhp is probably at the expensense of longevity of the turbo.
You can always tune more, its just you reach a point were stuff starts breaking quicker. This is where most massive mainstream tuners stop. But of course there will always be those willing to cater for the "POWER!!!!" crowd, who will tune beyond these limits.
Regal are a case in point, some are very sceptical about their claims for power ( and how safe it is for the engine) when they start selling 340bhp kits for the Astra VXR, on stock internals, when most other tuners say you dont want to go past 300bhp on standard internals.
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Hilarious, you can actually up the bhp and still recieve good economy of around 45-50 with good servicing and depending on your foot, most sit at around 52mpg without any mods.
Someone here has a proper remap and a better intercooler and which was good for 130BHP.
A better intercooler? can you explain? thats a very lean map, perhaps they were not interested in uprating there clutch due to expenses? so have stuck for a lower output.
Most cars are 'detuned' as you say to keep the emmissions and MPG figures where the manufactures want them.
What I'm saying is you can't map a 90bhp engine to 155bhp as you stated, for £95.
What do you mean can I explain? They used a better intercooler and had a remap, what else is there to explain? Maybe it's "lean" because he doesn't fancy a new turbo and injectors.
i never said you couldnt get good economy, stop being argumentative
I was pointing out that the engine was originally designed for use in a car aimed at a market where economy, rather than power, was paramount.
As such they wouldnt have stretched the engine as far as it could go, as the extra power wouldnt have been needed.
The current turbo is good for 200bhp ( apparently ) I couldn't comment on the injectors though although im 99% certain that theyve not been changed.
I dont understand what you mean by a better intercooler?
You can have the map provided to do so, but however I did think you were also calling bluff on the 125 map.
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Thats one heck of a load more air to flow than the stock 90bhp map, what turbo does it use?
Could explain the price then, but mind saying that lots of money goes into building a proper map, wonder how good these cheap maps actually are.
Could explain the price then, but mind saying that lots of money goes into building a proper map, wonder how good these cheap maps actually are.
does the HDI 90 engine have an intercooler
im guessing your being argumentative and pedantic again because you said "added" FMIC, so im guessing it never had one ?
so its better in that at least it had one, where it didnt before.
im guessing your being argumentative and pedantic again because you said "added" FMIC, so im guessing it never had one ?
so its better in that at least it had one, where it didnt before.