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porkrind

porkrind

porkrind

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Hi i have got reasn of my mate and had a quick mess about, i used to be quite into my cubase a few years back just wanna get some feedback on a quick arrangement I have knocked up to get used to reason

DnB if you like this please check this out , only short but is it anygood(worth extending developing?)

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It's a bit dull. The drums and bass are pretty good but the other sounds are dire and it goes nowhere. I understand that it's just a start so my advice would be to ditch everything but the drums and bass, then put something interesting in the song.
 
it took me like 1 hr I am waiting for a midi contoller slave keyboard so i can play some stuff in, kinda hard programming in rifts/melodies with a mouse on the piano roll .
 
Like 1 hour? what is like 1 hour apart from 1 hour?

Facetious comments aside...

You can use your PC keyboard to program MIDI, have a search for it. There are plenty of people who program stuff without the aid of a MIDI keyboard, don't let the fact that you don't yet have one stop you from making some kind of attempt at a melody. You could try using the Matrix pattern sequencer as well... attach the gate CV output to the gate input on whichever synth you are using then draw a pattern in on the display.

Make sure you have a look at the propellerheads website, it has a number of good tutorials to get you started with all the devices.

Also, what you have dubbed a "rift" is actually called a riff. That'll save you from sounding silly in the future.
 
Not a bad effort, but nothing particularly exciting either. I have a slightly irrational hatred of the sample you use at the start, it's just a bit overused. I also prefer when samples are used to add texture rather than as the main melody/hook. Anybody can take a drum beat and put a sample on top, it takes much more creativity to do something original with something which is fundamentally unoriginal.
 
Pretty basic, but nice layers. For DnB though, where's the bass? :p

If i were to extend it i'd get a nice bass sample in there (apart from the present sub-bass).

Also, is that a drum loop sample, or did you program it? Don't like the snare sound at all i think something with a little bit more attack would be more suitable
 
go with pro tools ;) reasons ok. but it depends if you are talking on a professional scale of things for the music industry?
 
its a sample cut about via recycle , yes its need a lot of work not sure on how to program the midi via keyboard/mouse have to read up
 
sinister_stu said:
Not a bad effort, but nothing particularly exciting either. I have a slightly irrational hatred of the sample you use at the start, it's just a bit overused. I also prefer when samples are used to add texture rather than as the main melody/hook. Anybody can take a drum beat and put a sample on top, it takes much more creativity to do something original with something which is fundamentally unoriginal.
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the sample at start is the start of the movie the plague it was the 1st thing I have tried, will change for sure
 
Neon said:
go with pro tools ;) reasons ok. but it depends if you are talking on a professional scale of things for the music industry?
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i have no musical knowledge apart from knowing what sound good(to me), reason looks good i have messed about with fruity loops(to clunky) , i used to have cubaseVST+ a yamaha CS1-X / roland grooveBox a few years back but sold due to funds
 
porkrind said:
i have no musical knowledge apart from knowing what sound good(to me), reason looks good i have messed about with fruity loops(to clunky) , i used to have cubaseVST+ a yamaha CS1-X / roland grooveBox a few years back but sold due to funds
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dont use fruity loops its a pain in the ass. carry on doing what your doing you will get there. trial and error :)
 
lol @ fruity-woops! :)

personally i found reason a bit too limited to music thats based soley on loops and samples. I much prefer things like cubase/cakewalk etc, gives a bit more freedom, especially for recording.
 
BigDannyO said:
lol @ fruity-woops! :)

personally i found reason a bit too limited to music thats based soley on loops and samples. I much prefer things like cubase/cakewalk etc, gives a bit more freedom, especially for recording.
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sonar or cakewalk. please for the love of god not cubase. most unstable program ever.
 
i mention cubase only cos thats what most people in my experience prefer, i've never used it!!. I actually use cakewalk home studio 2002 ( :eek: ancient!) and i love it, nice and simple but pretty useful in the right hands :)
 
BigDannyO said:
i mention cubase only cos thats what most people in my experience prefer, i've never used it!!. I actually use cakewalk home studio 2002 ( :eek: ancient!) and i love it, nice and simple but pretty useful in the right hands :)
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i used cubase for a good 2 years while doing my diploma. and i did not like it. the most unstable program ive come across. i know its good to save work frequent but even that cannot help you. when you try to open the cubase file again "this file is corrupt!" nice one cubase another 4 hours of writing and recording again!
 
Its a good start but needs to be liven'd up, the intro definatly needs something on it lead you into the tune and the bass drop needs something to jazz it up, you could try and add a them through the tune like some movie samples or something and try and change the bass arrangement up and make it more deep or harder the further into the tune you get.

but keep it up for just messing about for 1 hour youve done well so far
 
Mmm. I'm amused at the idea that the software people even use is somehow a factor that effects how creative you can be. F that. There's a lot of opinions here, but little substance (ie music) to back it up.

It doesn't matter what prog / software you use, as long as you find a way to get you want 'down'

Software, or lack of it does not restrict creativity.

Have fun! :)
 
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