Reason why games and movies are delayed coming over here?

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Hi

Can someone tell me why we get things so late?
At first I asumed it was the PAL conversion times but I really don't know...
 
No. The above post is wrong.

The problem is we are a relatively small market for games/movies. And we aren't as important as other areas so we are neglected.
 
Slightly related to the digital cinema thread. I dunno about games, but for films it can be because they can't actually make enough prints quickly enough. Piracy is also a worry; they have to protect the future revenue of the film. Therefore if they hold off releasing a film in the States because they havent got enough prints to get around the world simultaneously, and the film gets leaked -- they'd lose the potential revenue from the States as well as the rest of the world. They generally dont want to risk that, so they get the revenue from the States then worry about the rest of the world.
 
carvegio said:
No. The above post is wrong.

The problem is we are a relatively small market for games/movies. And we aren't as important as other areas so we are neglected.
Thats also wrong, Europe is one of (last year I believe it was!) the strongest market for games.
 
The three main markets for games being Asia, Europe and North America. Europe ranks lower in terms of importance because they make the least money here compaired to the other two.

What does strongest market mean?
 
Sacred said:
Yes but what stops them bringing out movies simultaneously here and in the US?


See the fifth post.


It's also worth noting that the BBFC (through which all films have to pass before release), can at times have a backlog/waiting list.
 
The problem for the UK in terms of game releases is pretty much caused by mainland Europe and the need for a lot of translations :mad:

Take a game like Pokemon (yeah I know, but it's the best example :p ), the only difference in the American and UK release of say the GBA ones would be the details on the packaging, game cart and manual. Yet it took absolutely ages to get released here because of all the text to be translated into the many languages of mainland Europe.
 
Fillado said:
The problem for the UK in terms of game releases is pretty much caused by mainland Europe and the need for a lot of translations :mad:

Take a game like Pokemon (yeah I know, but it's the best example :p ), the only difference in the American and UK release of say the GBA ones would be the details on the packaging, game cart and manual. Yet it took absolutely ages to get released here because of all the text to be translated into the many languages of mainland Europe.

I am no expert on games development but one would assume they have the scripts and details for all the text in the game before they start programming. Why don't they do all the translation work then?

SiriusB
 
With regards films & DVD's the length of time we wait these days is really not that long.
Many of the major films tend to get a worldwide release these days and even the smaller releases are usually out within 3-4 weeks.
Only the really quite low budget films take any length of time and that is usually an issue in finding a distributor.

The same goes for DVD's.
Gone are the days where you had to wait months for a UK release over a US one.
If it's a film that had a worldwide release then the DVD usually has the same.
We are then on average 3-4 weeks behind on the DVD releases as well.
Once again low budget films tend to have distribution issues so maybe delayed.

Where there is usually a delay is in the release of DVD's of US television programs here in the UK on DVD.
However that makes sense - if a UK network has spent a lot of money on a series they have to try and make their money back from it - so you have to wait for it's run to finish on UK TV before it has a release on DVD.
That can of course mean that in the case of say a 20 episode US series you could be looking at 6+ months of wait as you wait a month for the program to start being aired here and then the 5 months it takes to show it.
 
There are a lot of european langauges that games need to be translated to before they are released in europe. That is a pretty big cause if most delays.
 
carvegio said:
The three main markets for games being Asia, Europe and North America. Europe ranks lower in terms of importance because they make the least money here compaired to the other two.

What does strongest market mean?

Western Europe as a whole is more important than Japan - the UK on its own being the third biggest video games market worldwide (after the USA and Japan).

US/Canada £5.6bn
Western Europe £4.2bn
Japan £2.8bn
Source: ELSPA 2002
 
SiriusB said:
I am no expert on games development but one would assume they have the scripts and details for all the text in the game before they start programming. Why don't they do all the translation work then?

SiriusB
Good question. I guess they probably start doing translations alongside the rest of the game being developed but it still takes time to get those translations into the game code. With modern games with voice acting, it's even more difficult since you have to get the dubbing right. Although that only applies to games originally in japanese being translated to english, since they just subtitle it for other languages usually.
 
About 2000 miles of open Atlantic ocean is the answer ;)

Yes I'm aware most Hollywood studios and game publishers just burn and package the CDs locally in the UK or Europe to reduce shipping costs.
 
Actually the UK is often a testbed for DVD's, we got scrubs, futurama and family guy long before the US did, futurama we had a good 6 months headstart.

It also depends on TV schedules, someone buys the rights to air the show so the DVD is delayed to generate them viewing figures, that could be in the UK or US. That was the case with LOST, C4 spent a lot of money buying the rights and would be peeved if the DVD was released halfway through.
 
With games, sometimes the NTSC to PAL translation can take sometime to do. It's something like 6 months between MGS games and often more for Final Fantasy games. It can also give devlopers time to add in region specific content as well as region specific special features.
 
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