Recommend a good brand of paint

nantucket66

nantucket66

nantucket66

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Our dining room is slowly (very slowly) taking shape. Walls are stripped, skirting boards, plaster cornice and picture rail all have been removed.

Chimney breast opened up and width extended (flue off centre), new fire trial fitted. Door frames have been stripped using a heat gun (window frame to do this Sunday).

Room is getting plastered on Tuesday, carpet fitter is booked for December 17th so I've a decent amount of time to fit new skirting, picture rail cornice etc etc.

Question is this - what paint shall I use?

Woodwork will be primed, undercoated and glossed - I don't want it turning yellow in 12 months. The walls will have a PVA/white emulsion mist coat, then at least 2 coats of whatever colour we decide upon.

Dulux, Johnstones (or Leyland?), Crown, Farrow & Ball??

Any opinion? Attention to detail in the room has been good so far and I don't want to spoil the ship for a ha'porth of tar!

Cheers
 
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I've only used Dulux and Crown but generally I get testers and see which gives the best finish. Small outlay required to buy about 10 different brands/colours but it saves getting a a lot and not liking it or having to do 3 coats when 1 of another brand would have done.
 
Paint varies dramatically in quality, I don't paint everyday hence a perfectly valid question that may get answered by someone with a better idea then me. After all this is the home and garden section. If you've nothing worthwhile to contribute why bother?
 
The only point in F&B is if they have the colour you want. A decent choice of colour makes a huge difference to the right house.

Really impressed with Wickes trade paint, it used to be like milk but now it's perfect.
What it looks like is far more down to preparation and application technique than an actual brand of paint. Although if you want to blow another £10 on Dulux then it's up to you, IMO another 10 minutes walking around the room checking for flaws will make more of a difference.



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Not sure if this is standard practice, but I found taping up the floor directly below the skirting was a good idea, stopped all the floor fluff from being picked up accidentally while glossing.
 
I always use Dulux Trade, it has a high solids content, can be mixed to any colour you please. My personal choice is soft sheen, it's more hardwearing than matt and is wipeable.
 
nantucket66 said:
The walls will have a PVA/white emulsion mist coat
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First off, don't put PVA on your walls, you're essentially hanging sheets of paint on the plaster by doing so and it will fail one day coming off in sheets.

Use non vinyl emulsion thinned to single cream, 1 coat, example for imperfections, fill, sand, then another coat on top. This way the paint will actually adhere to the plaster. The idea of a mist coat is to reduce the initial porosity which would suck the moisture from regular viscosity paint and leave it sheeting, by doing so you're leaving a stable surface for to paint on.

Then your main coats, a good trade emulsion like Johnstones, trade emulsion has higher pigmentation, I tend to avoid dulux because they've given up making good trade products since voc 2010 and they're generally a waste of time.

Ceiling in contract emulsion, then walls in decent trade.

Then skirtings, for gloss I last used Johnstones aqua thinned with floetrol to increase open times, wooster silvertip brush was the tool of choice.

Woodwork as follows - knotting, zinsser 123 primer, aqua undercoat, sand, aqua undercoat, sand, then 2 of aqua gloss. And it should come up nicely.
 
We used Earthborn Claypaints for the entire house when we redecorated, great stuff, as it is clay based without volatiles in them, they go on well and allow everything to breathe, reducing potential issues with damp and/or allergens apparently. I'm not a scientist so cannot verify those points, but confirm that the house doesn't stink for ages after using these paints so I was happy then and 5 years on still fine.
 
pitchfork said:
First off, don't put PVA on your walls, you're essentially hanging sheets of paint on the plaster by doing so and it will fail one day coming off in sheets.

Use non vinyl emulsion thinned to single cream, 1 coat, example for imperfections, fill, sand, then another coat on top. This way the paint will actually adhere to the plaster. The idea of a mist coat is to reduce the initial porosity which would suck the moisture from regular viscosity paint and leave it sheeting, by doing so you're leaving a stable surface for to paint on.

Then your main coats, a good trade emulsion like Johnstones, trade emulsion has higher pigmentation, I tend to avoid dulux because they've given up making good trade products since voc 2010 and they're generally a waste of time.

Ceiling in contract emulsion, then walls in decent trade.

Then skirtings, for gloss I last used Johnstones aqua thinned with floetrol to increase open times, wooster silvertip brush was the tool of choice.

Woodwork as follows - knotting, zinsser 123 primer, aqua undercoat, sand, aqua undercoat, sand, then 2 of aqua gloss. And it should come up nicely.
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Thanks for the pointers, much appreciated!
 
Use satin wood rather than gloss

My painting way after preparation is

Paint ceiling two coats don't bother cutting in just paint round the corners
Paint woodwork two coats ditto don't bother cuttingin
Paint walls two coats then all the cutting in you have is
 
Use satin wood rather than gloss
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That's like saying "paint it blue instead of green"
You're changing the paint finish, satinwood looks cheap if you ask me.

"White contract on lids, maggy on walls, satinwood on skirting and architrave" choice of tightwads/ property devs the world over.

Also, you should always do ceiling, then walls, then skirtings last. Only exception to this is you would undercoat any deckies caulk if it was freshly applied to prevent the emulsion splitting.
 
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It's not really is it because they are both white, satin wood is more modern, gloss looks old and tired and is quite difficult to get right where as satin is easy to apply.

The choice of developers is white white, mag is so 1990s
 
I've used dulux trade and little greene at home.

Tend to supermatt for mist and ceiling, trade flat matt or little green intelligent matt for walls then trade eggshell for woodwork.

Little Green coverage is awesome but pricey.
 
maccapacca said:
It's not really is it because they are both white, satin wood is more modern, gloss looks old and tired and is quite difficult to get right where as satin is easy to apply.

The choice of developers is white white, mag is so 1990s
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Poppycock, gloss gives the air of quality when done right shining like a mirror, satin just looks like something out of ikea, plasticy, naff. It's reminiscent of new builds.

Gloss is just as easy to get right it just takes more patience, where Satin is self undercoating gloss requires undercoating separately.

Also, pretty much every new build I've ever seen is in maggy, I mean it's two choices for cheap paint, white or magnolia. Either way it's faceless and uninviting, ultimately cheap though.
 
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