Recommend a Stable Bios Version

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Can anyone recommend stable bios version for
Gigabyte B650E AORUS ELITE X AX ICE (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX,
9800x3d

Bit jealous off my daughter graphics card so bought myself a new one 9070xt prime in OC sale. AI recommended F34-F36. Do you agree with AI or recommend a different version pls
 
Would it just make sense to do the latest that's not a beta and go back a version if you happen to have any issues?
 
That’s what I thought but just a bit surprised that AI recommended a much older version. Was thinking of version F43.
 
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@Hotwired This was AI reply
Versions F34 and F36 are recommended because they represent a critical transition point for your motherboard where AMD introduced fully validated, production-grade AGESA microcode specifically optimized for Ryzen 9000-series processors (like your 9800X3D).
Upgrading from your current beta release (f34f) to these versions provides four specific technical advantages:

1. Replaced Beta Microcode with Stable Voltages
Your current f34f firmware is an experimental beta release from late 2024. Beta BIOS releases often contain unoptimized voltage-to-frequency scaling tables. They can misreport power requests to the CPU, which triggers immediate freezes when you apply an aggressive Curve Optimizer undervolt like -30. Moving to a final release like F34 or F36 ensures the core voltage plane remains perfectly steady under all-core stress tests. [1, 2]

2. Lower Core Temperatures and Improved Vcore Scaling
User benchmarks and community feedback for the Gigabyte B650 AORUS ICE series on F36 confirm that the processor runs measurably cooler with a lower operational Vcore under heavy stress tests (like Prime95 and Cinebench) compared to older builds. The refined power delivery helps prevent your system from hitting thermal or voltage safety limits, stopping the multi-core lockups. [1]

3. Eliminated Memory Controller Lag
The AGESA microcode updates embedded within the F34 and F36 branches directly patch the AMD memory controller. This update resolves system stuttering and lag when running heavy multi-core processing alongside high-frequency EXPO memory profiles (like your Corsair Vengeance 6000MHz RAM).[1]

4. Added "X3D Turbo Mode"
Starting around these firmware iterations, Gigabyte introduced a specialized X3D Turbo Mode feature in the BIOS. This profile is engineered specifically for chips like your 9800X3D. It alters distribution parameters to optimize core cluster communication, providing a safe, factory-validated performance uplift without requiring unstable manual clock overrides.


⚠️ Note on Even Newer Versions
While versions like F40 through F42 exist on the official Gigabyte Motherboard Support Page, some users on hardware forums like Reddit have noted minor, annoying bugs in the F40+ generation, such as broken RGB sync profiles. Jumping to F34 or F36 provides the ideal, golden balance of perfect 9800X3D stability without any experimental headache. [1, 2]
 
Are you having any problems? There's zero point of updating the bios otherwise unless there's security issues.

I'm going to do my best to be polite here but my god "AI" is making people less competent. I've seen so many people post AI related content of late and it's legitimately disturbing. I'm pretty sure there was a thread earlier this weekend that got deleted where people were asking it to make a Dr. Who ending for them which will never not be weird.

You're not being progressive or smart by jumping on the chain, you're just asking a compiler to tell you what to do based on thousands of reddit/social media posts and it'll be wrong a huge amount of the time for obvious reasons.
 
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When I first got my pc Xmas of 2024, I over clocked my 9800x3d. Was happy with a score of around 24000 and it being stable. This week sometime I will have a new 9070 xt so I tested my cpu again with cinebench r23. On the multi core test within 30 seconds the screen freeze, had to do a hard shutdown. Not made any changes since my original over locking apart from windows and drivers updates. It’s now stable again with a slightly lower score with the OC set to -20 instead of -30. Hence me asking for a stable bios version as I’m currently on F34f
 
Mojo24 said:
When I first got my pc Xmas of 2024, I over clocked my 9800x3d. Was happy with a score of around 24000 and it being stable. This week sometime I will have a new 9070 xt so I tested my cpu again with cinebench r23. On the multi core test within 30 seconds the screen freeze, had to do a hard shutdown. Not made any changes since my original over locking apart from windows and drivers updates. It’s now stable again with a slightly lower score with the OC set to -20 instead of -30. Hence me asking for a stable bios version as I’m currently on F34f
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By your own description the reason your computer was unstable was your undervolting.

Any amount of deciding you know better than the default settings puts the blame on you when the system is unstable. Unstable might not show during the time you tested or in the programs you used to test, that's the gamble of tinkering for performance scores rather than leaving it as it was sold to you.

And Cinebench is not a proper stability test. It's primarily used for getting a score to show off. Ideally this is done after passing good stability tests but you get better scores if you don't.

IBT (intel burn test(just a name, it's fine for amd)) is quite fast at finding most instabilities in your adjustments. Often this is followed by running Prime95 for up to an entire 24h to differently check for instability.

I don't know how you ended up blaming the bios but I'm pretty sure that ain't it.
 
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By your own description the reason your computer was unstable was your undervolting.

Any amount of deciding you know better than the default settings puts the blame on you when the system is unstable. Unstable might not show during the time you tested or in the programs you used to test, that's the gamble of tinkering for performance scores rather than leaving it as it was sold to you.

And Cinebench is not a proper stability test. It's primarily used for getting a score to show off. Ideally this is done after passing good stability tests but you get better scores if you don't.

IBT (intel burn test(just a name, it's fine for amd)) is quite fast at finding most instabilities in your adjustments. Often this is followed by running Prime95 for up to an entire 24h to differently check for instability.

I don't know how you ended up blaming the bios but I'm pretty sure that ain't it.
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I will try Intel Burn Test and Prime later today.

When I was googling AI part recommend updating my Bios.
 
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The paraphrase an old saying... "if AI told you to jump off a cliff, would you?"
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"I apologize for the oversight. You are completely correct, and I appreciate you pointing that out. How else can I help you today?"

If it's ChatGPT, don't use it at all. It's so good at stroking your ego to hide how **** it is.
 
Mojo24 said:
Can anyone recommend stable bios version for
Gigabyte B650E AORUS ELITE X AX ICE (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX,
9800x3d

Bit jealous off my daughter graphics card so bought myself a new one 9070xt prime in OC sale. AI recommended F34-F36. Do you agree with AI or recommend a different version pls
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AI regularly and confidently get this sort of thing very wrong. Just install the latest BIOS, it gets you onto the 1.3 AGESA
 
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