Recommendations for standard Canon lens

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I'm looking to invest in a decent standard 35mm - 70mm standard lens for a Canon 400D. Probably prepared to spend up to around £300.

Any suggestions or recommendations?

Thanks
 
The wider range of 17-70 makes that an ideal walk around lens? I was told to stick between 35-70.. Is there any reason why? I'm still a beginner.

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Actual 35-70mm or full frame equivalent 35-70mm?

I'm not sure. Does this mean what ever lens I buy would alter as and when i choose to upgrade to a full frame?
 
thanks JanesyB.. I take it that doesn't have IS though?

would i be able to use that on a full frame camera at a later date if I choose to go that route?
 
Sorry should have explained that a 50mm lens on a full-frame body will appear to have a longer focal length on a crop body (1.6x the stated focal length). I say "appear" because in the case of some lenses designed for crop, you can't use them on a full-frame body anyway, so it's a moot point.

But for a walk-around general purpose zoom, you definitely want wider than 35mm. I even feel slightly constrained by 17mm sometimes, and that's when you start the whole process again looking for an ultra-wide angle :)

IS is amazingly useful, but it won't help with moving subjects in low light, and this is where aperture really helps- bear in mind f2.8 lets in double the light of f4. I'd rather have a sharper lens and large aperture over IS, but it's all down to your intended use.

My general kit is currently the Tamron 17-50 f2.8 (non VC) and the Canon 70-200 f2.8 IS II. I did have a 50mm f1.8 but lost it in the Canal in Venice, I don't miss the 50-70mm range as such, but I do miss the aperture. I've got an M42 mount manual focus 50mm Pentax takumar f1.4 hopefully arriving today which should be fun.

So basically avoid lenses that are designed for APS-C cameras ( non full frame)? if intended to use it on a fill frame later.

If I use a 35mm lens on a standard camera it will be 56mm.. but if I use it on a full frame, it is quoted 35mm. Have i got that right?

OS is Sigma's Optical Stabilization (IS), HSM is the focusing motor for quiet quick focusing.

The Sigma 17-70 should be a good walkabout everyday lens due to its features, but I haven't tried one to know what the picture quality is like. I have owned both a Tamron 17-50 f2.8 (non VC) and 28-75 f2.8, both cost about £180 second hand and really enjoyed using both. :)

Your solution mind of illustrates my original point and what I've been told.. to have a separate wide and standard lens.. Does that have an advantage?
 
I own the 17-70mm and have owned the Tamron and much prefer the Sigma.

The focus's faster and closer, the OS is great and the focal length more versatile.

but isn't the sigma an equivalent focal length built for non full frame cameras meaning it can't be used on a full frame?

Conversely, If i opt for the Tamron 17-50 f2.8, i take the focal range would actually be 27-80mm on a non-full frame.. Unless I'm misunderstanding eveything..
 
Looking and landscapes and buildings for now but I see your point about not worrying too much about the ff. I guess there's always an oppertunty to sell if I go down that route. I already have a Canon 50mm Prime f/1.8 but not used it much yet.

The Tamron SP AF17-50mm F/2.8 seems like a good choice for me if i can get one second hand. Then a bit further down the line a 28-75 f2.8.

So just to be clear on this .. on my 400d, the 17-50 will be is will be 27-80mm as it's a APS-C type camera, always multiply the focal lengths by 1.6?

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No, not at all, buy lenses for what you have now. Even if you go full frame I'd say keep the 400D anyway. Two bodies are always a good idea.

Don't get too hung up on the full frame focal equivalence, I probably confused things, apologies. Once you know how 10, 18, 50 and 70mm look through the viewfinder on your camera, that's all you really need to know.

Sorry i was typing as you posted CGrieves.. I see your point and thanks for the advice about not getting too hung up about the full frame..

Edit 2 - thanks to everyone actually.. Things are a little clearer. Not not made a final decision but the Tamron does sound like a good choice.. Been reading some excellent reviews too.. An ideal replacement for the 17-50 stock lens i have.
 
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