Red Dwarf is back

Looking forward to it.

Way too much snobbery about latter red dwarf, yes it wasnt as good as the earlier series but it was nowhere near as bad as its being made out. The only things the specials missed for me was an audience and red dwarfs interiors seemed sparkly and completely different, like they mixed up the red dwarf dvds with star trek and copied that (also the corrie bit and the smug kids were annoying), I think they made it a bit too complicated so that everything needed explaining and there wasnt enough room for banter between them.

It was good but it was very flawed which hopefully they take onboard the constructive criticism rather than the 'lol crap' talk. Will watch in hope, it could go either way but more red dwarf is always good considering the crap 'reality' tv we have atm.
 
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I looked forward to those one off ones they did last year, but they were dire. I doubt this will be any better unfortunately :(
 
Rob's been hinting and not hinting and saying 'Ooops' a lot on Twitter over the past few days!..

Danny's been very quiet!!..

Great to finally get confirmation!!

Big SMEGING fan here!!.. I do hope they don't Smeg it up!!..
 
Way too much snobbery about latter red dwarf, yes it wasnt as good as the earlier series but it was nowhere near as bad as its being made out..

But it is that bad. After series 6 it was awful. Awful. Me and my brother were huge fans in the 80s and 90s and remember watching series 3, 4, 5, and 6 as they premiered on BBC2.

But when Rob Grant left it was embarrassingly bad, Naylor just did not have the humour and inventiveness to make it work like it once did. It was cringeworthy. Kochanski was a terrible addition to the cast. As as for the specials, can you really say the Coronation Street addition was positive? It was shameful. And the worse moment? By far it was, "on Earth this is being broadcast on a channel called Dave..." That was the lowest I've seen any program stoop, possibly ever.
 
I agree with Uriel, having the entity known as 'Grant Naylor' back writing would be significant step in the right direction.

I think what made it worse Series 6 and beyond was the obvious increase in budget and the new sets (i vaguely recall this being because the original sets were lost).
It felt like the budget was being used to try and dazzle Red Dwarf fans and cover up the lack of good storylines and scripts.

Then the addition of new characters (Kochanski) felt forced, coupled with Red Dwarf being rebuilt with the crew intact was just too much for me and I stopped paying any attention.

If any one of these changes had been made in isolation it may have been bearable

I was pretty ambivalent about the recent special, it was OK but still hadn't recaptured the genius of episodes like 'Back to Reality' and 'Quarantine'.

A new series frankly fills me with very cautious optimism. I hope it will be back to it's best but my heart tells me it will be nowhere near.
 
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I think what made it worse Series 6 and beyond was the obvious increase in budget and the new sets (i vaguely recall this being because the original sets were lost).


I hate CG red dwarf.

It looks ********, and somehow the actors turned crap at the exact same point.

Cardboard spaceships exploding and edison light bulb propulsion systems f-t-w
 
From Series 7 it was all written by Doug Naylor, it was Rob Grant that left because he 'wished to have more on his 'tombstone' than Red Dwarf on its own'.

Fair enough really.
 
Robert makes a really interesting point on filming in front of a live audience. I think the standard would be much better and it captures some of what I liked about the original shows.

How do you stop people from youtubing it and giving it away?

Easy really.

Nobody is being forced to go and be a member of the live audience... they will have to apply or be picked from extras casting, which a lot of TV shows do for live audiences.

You simply search everyone to make sure they don't have a phone or anything that can record before they go in. You can also make them sign a confidentiality agreement.

Sure, people may be able to retell some of the story they saw filmed... but really the only place you would read about that was on some specialist Red Dwarf website I would have thought.

At the end of the day, it's no different to how those cheap trashy TV magazines will tell you the plot of Eastenders or any of the other soaps before it's been aired.

If you seek that out, then that's your own fault for doing so if it spoils it.

Control over stuff like YouTube videos though they can stop from ever happening.



Red Dward coming back for a proper series is brilliant news though!
 
It's truly horrific the amount of effort they seem to have to go through to resurrect a series everyone loves.

Just get them into the studio with a live audience, crap sets, if it works then great, if it doesn't, then let it flop. I simply don't understand why it's taking five thousand years, I really don't. Anything that takes this long to get going is going to have all the sponteanaity and fun zapped out of it, expectations will be built up and then dashed.

Bloody awful state of affairs, what IS the big problem

I love Red Dwarf but I now actually wish it never existed due to the constant drip drop of potential new series/film/whatever. And when they do materialise they're crap, with outdated jokes

//end rant/.
 
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