Redundancy consultation expectations?

[ivrytwr3]

It is never nice to tell someone, even if they are useless, they are soon to be out of work.

I disagree with this, not that i take pleasure from removing these type of people, but sometimes they only have themselves to blame and tbh they are usually a drain, difficult to manage (taking up more of time) and the rest of the team have to take up their slack.

I have to be a smiling assassin at times

 

[BUDFORCE]

Still going on, they are doing this group consultation thing where they are going back and forth trying to agree what will form the "points matrix" - assuming that isn't a smoke screen which I suspect it is anyway.

My manager had a quick look at what he thinks the points will be, and thinks I might be ok, but obviously isn't sure as he is in the same boat so doesn't know any more than I do, I trust him as well. His job is also at risk and his level is going from 5 to 3 so tehnically got less percentage chance then I do.

It's looking like we are going to find out though earlier next week, if I am honest I just want to know as this stage is awful, plus I am not particularly interested as think it'll jus tbe what it'll be and all the discussion is just making everyone misrable.

If they do genuinely go by this "points matrix" it'll be an absolute shambles, as some of the staff are absolutely useless and have been for years but no doubt will end up doing well, and visa versa.

 

[BUDFORCE]

safe...............what a relief!

I've been really good about drinking during the week but started on the bourbon whiskey at about half 4 today, whilst still at work I hasten to add!

I mean............the way things are going this could come again, in 6 months, maybe 3 months, who knows, but in the short term, man...........

Thanks for the advice though guys, what a bloody roller coaster a ******* **** few weeks this has been.

 

[Housey]

Time to review options and see what else is out there. Always best to prepare the boats just in case, get options and then make the decisions whilst you have control of the ball.

 

[BUDFORCE]

Yup definitely taking this as a warning shot.

 

[Stu999]

If they do genuinely go by this "points matrix" it'll be an absolute shambles, as some of the staff are absolutely useless and have been for years but no doubt will end up doing well, and visa versa.

They have to have a scoring / points mechanism because legally they have to have a fair and objective way of assessing people.

 

[Cold Fusion]

I was made redundant twice in 18months (First time to cut overhead as Covid hit / Second time as the business was closing) its not a fun experience.

As others have said they will already have an idea of who they want to get rid of (wage savings target) if there are 7 of you in the same role and they are only making 1 redundant then that's positive. It will likely come down to who is cheapest to offload and who does a good job, people who have been with a business a long time can be costly to make redundant so they may choose to keep those on the books even when they are on higher wages. If your doing a good job and your wage is lower than others its likely they will keep you.

Its a horrible waiting game, but in that time update your CV, look up any similar businesses nearby, maybe even sounds some out regarding vacancies, put your name down with recruitment agents if you know any that are good.

I wish you luck

 

[dlockers]

I was made redundant twice in 18months (First time to cut overhead as Covid hit / Second time as the business was closing) its not a fun experience.

As others have said they will already have an idea of who they want to get rid of (wage savings target) if there are 7 of you in the same role and they are only making 1 redundant then that's positive. It will likely come down to who is cheapest to offload and who does a good job, people who have been with a business a long time can be costly to make redundant so they may choose to keep those on the books even when they are on higher wages. If your doing a good job and your wage is lower than others its likely they will keep you.

Its a horrible waiting game, but in that time update your CV, look up any similar businesses nearby, maybe even sounds some out regarding vacancies, put your name down with recruitment agents if you know any that are good.

I wish you luck

Rtft

 

[NickK]

They have to have a scoring / points mechanism because legally they have to have a fair and objective way of assessing people.

Typically I'd expect:
* formal notification that they are performing consultation - the driver for it, perhaps the specific areas that are impacted.
* a formal timeline - including the time period for people to be contacted that are affected or confirmed not affected, the period that people have to apply for new roles and the end date of consultation process where redundancy discussions will start and complete by.
* a formal offer as part of redundancy - if affected
* a formal communication at the end of the process to close off and ensure all the staff know the process is compete.