Reference cards are better overclockers ???

[Dicehunter]

So I've been looking around benchmarks, Reviews, Various other forums and forum goers and going from my own experience as well I have noticed reference cards tend to be the best overclockers even with the introduction of custom PCB's etc... Why is this ?, Surely the more "Custom" PCB's and better components would mean better clocks, I know the silicon lottery has a huge part to play but nearly all cards that I've seen compete equally with their reference counter parts.

 

[Dicehunter]

Can't comment on Nvidia, but AMD reference boards are very hard to beat, vrm circuitry is almost bullet proof enabling silly voltage.

I noticed that, My work mates reference 290X beat the 290X Matrix I tested hands down, Quite silly really.

 

[Dicehunter]

and where does 8pack advice anyone to get a matrix for water or air? And how does it give you any benefits over any other cards? I can understand how the extra phases and voltage control helps on LN2, but on water or air? lol.

I have never said that he did you just made that up in your tiny head, I bought the Matrix to do an LN2 session with it once I finish moving country but seeing as I'm using the card now the general temperatures of the card make the rest of my system uncomfortably hot.

And stop calling people sheep, It's quite insulting and very arrogant, People follow the advice of experienced clockers until they have enough knowledge of their own that they feel confident to experiment.

Custom cards for air are just stupid.Only the better cooler worth it. You are sheep if you believe msi and asus marketing.If you dont go below zero stick with the card with the best cooler.

So people are sheep for seeing a card with a better cooler and thinking it would have better temperatures ? Grow up.

 

[Dicehunter]

My knowledge + reference cards = Higher scores on water than all other single 290s? (Not sure if someone surpassed me though).

And yea, same deal with my reference 7970.

Meh, dont listen to me lol.

Show me your scores when you're done ln2ing it

I don't and no, All you do is insult people for not following your advice, You need to grow up.

 

[Dicehunter]

The problem might be that AMD used the best cores on reference cards and then saved all of the poor, power hungry, hot running cores for the aftermarket cards which would be able to handle them better. If that's the case I imagine things will improve as yields get better.

This makes sense seeing the reference clocks.

 

[Dicehunter]

I berate people who buy Matrixes because they believe the marketing and say its better than reference cards. (Spreading wrong info, again; May not be true for LN2)

As I said before, I bought the Matrix with the intention of doing my first LN2 session once I finish moving country and setup my new apartment, You need to stop assuming you know what people are going to do just because you would do something different.

 

[Dicehunter]

I dont wonder at all, i enjoy it until someone puts me down or proves me otherwise; then ill sit the frack down. Yet to be done though, i do help people if they want to listen.

The way you go about helping people is wrong though, If you want to teach people you shouldn't insult them for making a decision different to yours.