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robj20

robj20

robj20

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Am I right in thinking I can plug an RJ45 lead into my master socket and the other end to a patch panel and then from the patch panel with the router lead?
Basically using my home network cabling as an extension so the router can be located in my networking cupboard.
 
I used cat 5e cable to the centre of my house (From phone point) to an RJ45 point on my patch panel.

I made sure the right pins from RJ11 to RJ45 where right. (Going from patch panel to router RJ11) and it worked great!

I can’t remember the pin outs but I know it works if you match the pins.

I didn’t lose any sync at all I still got the full 80 down same sync speed as if it was directly into the router to phone box.
 
Well you'll definitely have a worse signal to noise ratio. Whether that means you'll lose speed is another matter. Is there absolutely no way you can have a device at the master socket, and then forward from there?
 
The phone line does but does the network connection? There separate on my master socket.

I tried it but the router wouldn't connect. Not sure why.
So this is how I had this end.
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And this at the patch panel. The RJ11 obviously isn't a very good fit, could that be the problem.
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I fully intend to be getting FTTP at some point so the master socket will disappear.

FTTP I intend to route to where my networking equipment is under the stairs. Sure the installer will let me feed it under the floor and up into the cupboard for them to fit.

But this not working bugs me, lol. Will an RJ11 to RJ45 cable be the solution?
 
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If that was mine I'd run a dedicated cable to the back of the master socket and terminate it using the IDC terminals provided. Or if the cables already there are long enough, retask one of them and have a single network port.

It'd be better from a signal point of view and would be completely hidden.

I'd also install a sunken backing box behind the master socket to get it nearer to the wall.

With the wall in the state it is you've got the perfect opportunity.
 
If you've got your walls smashed apart like that then take the time to get those sockets level with each other, it looks awful at the moment :p

You can also move the Openreach master into a recessed box rather than surface, and link it to the network outlet with a bit of conduit as well so you can have the VDSL connection coming off the terminals on the rear.
 
You two completely ignoring my comments regards the master socket not even being there by the end of the year. FTTP will be getting installed as soon as I can. So I'm not about to start messing up my network for this. Sockets are level by the way just doesn't look it in the photo. Plus it's all hidden behind a book case.

I just want to know how to quickly get it working the way I want.
 
robj20 said:
Will an RJ11 to RJ45 cable be the solution?
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It's a certain pin out I can't remember what it was but might have been pin 3/4 out of the 8 pins. I will see if I still have that cable to double check what the pin out was for it. You would need an RJ11 to RJ45 connector custom made for sure from the router to the patch panel.

EDIT: Use RJ11 cable. This is the pin outs I used. (RJ11 - 1/2/3/4) (RJ45 - 3/4/5/6) It's probably using only 1 pair though out of the 2.

I don't think you can use an RJ11 clip in a RJ45 port the pins don't match.

https://i.imgur.com/JBlX742.jpg
 
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What you've done should work fine as long as all the cables are wired straight through rather than crossed over. Do you get a dial tone at the patch panel?
 
Caged said:
What you've done should work fine as long as all the cables are wired straight through rather than crossed over. Do you get a dial tone at the patch panel?
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I wouldn't get a disk tone regardless I'm only sending the data down the line. Not touching the voice.
 
mrbell1984 said:
It's a certain pin out I can't remember what it was but might have been pin 3/4 out of the 8 pins. I will see if I still have that cable to double check what the pin out was for it. You would need an RJ11 to RJ45 connector custom made for sure from the router to the patch panel.

EDIT: Use RJ11 cable. This is the pin outs I used. (RJ11 - 1/2/3/4) (RJ45 - 3/4/5/6) It's probably using only 1 pair though out of the 2.

I don't think you can use an RJ11 clip in a RJ45 port the pins don't match.

https://i.imgur.com/JBlX742.jpg
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Think my RJ11 is only using the two center wires so 2 and 3. So 2 needs to go to 4 and 3 to 5 is that right.
This should work then.
https://smile.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00B9G40QE/ref=cm_sw_r_em_apa_i_geSSEbCCT6V7P
 
robj20 said:
I wouldn't get a disk tone regardless I'm only sending the data down the line. Not touching the voice.
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Are you SOGEA then? There's nothing special about the VDSL port on the faceplate so it should have dial tone if you have a live phone line.
 
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