Remap question

[Freefaller]

Hi all,

I've spoken to my fleet manager and managed to sell him the idea of getting my new company car remapped to "improve economy" - he said he was happy for a remap as long as it did not involve modifying the car, i.e. physical changes to the car (i.e. exhausts, intake that sort of thing).

Now bearing in mind that it will be a bog standard car and not have any modifications, are companies like superchips (I'm not necessarily meaning them but using them as an example) worthwhile seeing as I won't need a custom map?

Unfortunately, we've had all our company car choices severely restricted owing to wanting to lower tax and costs, unless you're on the board or a senior manager you have very little choice. It's a lovely 508 1.6 HDi Active. Hence my reason for a remap - it'd be nice to at least get it up to around 140 to make it less painful.

 

[Freefaller]

I wouldn't be paying for it. I'm not overly bothered - I'm not really after the economy (that's how I sold it to the FM however), I'm after getting a bit more power from the ****** little 1.6 in the tank-like car. If I get more mpg - it's a bonus. As for the the remap being discovered, it can be backed out easily - when I've owned my cars, I could do the same. no reason why it shouldn't be the same now.

 

[Freefaller]

Thanks will check them out.

 

[Freefaller]

Yeah tuning box would be simpler but I don't know if the new 508 ecus can do it? It's only out of curiosity I'm looking into this.

Yep the FM would put it on the record of the car.

 

[Freefaller]

TDI Tuning indicate that they offer a tuning box taking it to 138bhp.

Will never be a popular choice but I do have rather a soft spot for the 508 styling.

Out of the choice I had it was between that, a Superb and the Focus. The 508 had more toys and creature comforts than those 2, but the focus was the most "fun". The superb just felt like a less nice place to be. The other cars weren't even worth looking at!

I've been in touch with TDI Tuning who seem to have a plug in box - seems good. I'm waiting to hear back from angel tuning.

Ultimately, if the FM thinks it's too expensive, I won't bother.

 

[Freefaller]

If it's all been approved I don't see why you'd bother with a tuning box. Get it remapped by someone who has done the same engine a few times!

I'm all up for that, but I want to make sure I get best bang for buck, and whilst I don't have a set budget, I can possibly argue the case for a few hundred quid, but not for coming on to a grand. I've got a good relationship with our FM, but at the same time I'm not going to land him with a large bill or try and take the ****.

I was just after ideas/recommendations/suggestions/alternatives. Then I can take that away show him what I've got, and if he's still up for it, go for it, if not I won't bother. Nothing ventured nothing gained and all that jazz.

 

[Freefaller]

A remap is a mod, and WILL alter the insurance

Yes - I already said this would not be a problem.

 

[Freefaller]

I know it's not a powerful car, but it's woefully slow. And I know a map won't make it a rocket ship. However, it would be nice to have a little bit more power at little cost - 200-300 quid isn't a big investment for a 20-30% hike. Ultimately, I'm not paying for it, it's only a potential option, and unless I'm given a promotion (which is not likely) so as to get the next grade I might as well do it!

Anyway I've got a few options available to look into. Thanks chaps.

 

[Freefaller]

ask for a different car

All the cars are 1.6 for tax / emission reasons *yawn* (unles you got a hybrid thing) - if I could change I would. However I end up earning money by having a company car (in terms of getting my fuel paid for my mileage), and I do so many miles I don't really want to buy my own, my car allowance is only around 4k so not really worried about getting that. At least I get a brand new car for a few years, it's serviced and looked after for me.

What is it just now, 115bhp? To be fair it might make a reasonable difference even if you get a 15% or so actual increase. Don't know how much you'll really notice on a commute unless you have a pretty quiet run to work.

If its free and at no risk to you though then its a bit of a no brained tbh - Peugeot are very unlikely to go looking for it, they may inadvertently wipe it though. (Honda have done this to mine)

Most of the tuners I've spoken to thanks to your help have said around 140bhp after remap and over 220 lbft of torque - which is noticeable to me.

I'm not worried about the warranty or dealer - the FM is not a nob, and had said if the price is reasonable, and is happy with what is offered, he'd sort it all out.

IF this turns out to be too much of a fuss, I can just carry on without a care in the world. Ultimately, it's not my car, and don't really care about it - but if I'm going to get lumbered with something that is less pokey, might as well try and make it a little more pleasant to drive. The car itself is really nice (IMO) for what it is.

 

[Freefaller]

I have a Bluefin and personally think that 95% of the reason for it is a more responsive engine with higher performance.
I would say that an extra 1mpg is nice, but more of a side benefit.

A generic remap probably won't improve the mpg enough to make it worthwhile for you, but then I am basing this on one car and one remap, yours could act completely differently. I know people with other brand vehicles to me have experienced a greater mpg gain.

I personally am not interested in MPG as I get my fuel paid for me for work mileage. However, that's how I'm selling it - as an economy benefit.

 

[Freefaller]

And to be honest, that would be more than adequate. I can't remember the last time I drove a car with less than 140... let alone 112! Heck even my motorbikes had more power than that!! And now cars are so much heavier than they were 10-20 years ago that power makes a difference.

I'm hunting for a new job now anyway, so I'll be able to go back to commuting and having my own car instead! Well... that's if I find a new job!