Remapping. Risky? Your thoughts?

always mapped anything with a turbo just got to watch the clutch if its old in its life other than that a nice gain in BHP and MPG seems to be better too.
 
Mapped a skoda vrs diesel and a fiesta st. Both better in terms of performance, the fiesta especially. Not had any dramas with either, can't say I noticed any difference in mpg though.
 
thats the thing had a A4 b8.5 think it was 137bhp mapped over 190 same as the other 2.0tdi engines this one from factory was just mapped down.
 
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My V70 D5 has just had its DPF removed along with a supposed 212bhp remap.

Performance is identical so I can only assume it’s was already remapped before I bought it as my mechanic has been telling me it must have been.

Yea I mean the difference on mine was so tiny it might even be a placebo, maybe.... between 4-6k rpm there is more power.


When I got it done they said "well youd know if it had already been done as it would have the little badge thing on the back"


But I never put that badge on so......
 
I've had my last 4 cars remapped and didn't have any issues with them related to the remap. My first two were a Focus 1.8TDCi and an Leon FR170 both with Superchips Bluefin plug in remaps putting them to about 130BHP for the Focus and just over 200 for the Leon on a dyno. I did notice I was getting more DPF regens on the Leon after getting it done. The next two were DS3s, a THP155 and 165, both done by SPTuning to just under 200BHP. My new DS3 is a THP210 and feels quick enough at the moment so haven't felt the urge to remap it. Maybe in a year I'll get the itch and take it down to SPT!
 
Did anyone mention resale value ? - who would touch a car if they knew it had had a remap -
I'm more likely to buy from a garage, but would expect them to do due diligence to check any tell-tale codes.
 
Yea I mean the difference on mine was so tiny it might even be a placebo, maybe.... between 4-6k rpm there is more power.


When I got it done they said "well youd know if it had already been done as it would have the little badge thing on the back"


But I never put that badge on so......
I kind of thought mine was remapped when I bought it as I’d test driven a near identical model a couple of days earlier and this one pulled very much stronger through the gears than the first car, my mechanic is pretty confident it’s an ex police car as it’s apparently got bigger brakes and different suspension to what it should have along with wiring behind the front grill that’s no longer connected - although a D5 Volvo wouldn’t have been a traffic car (they used the T5 petrol for that) maybe it was previously an undercover vehicle or something?
 
who would touch a car if they knew it had had a remap.
Me! :o :D - As I say above, when I bought my V70 I was very sure it was remapped by the way it performed, didn’t put me off at all, I viewed it as saving me getting it done. :p
 
this always comes to my mind on bmw remapping

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Today there are 3 versions of this cylinder: UL, OL and TOP.​
UL stands for lower-performance, the piston is made out of a simple aluminum-alloy, the crankshaft is simple-forged and uses a sintered connecting rod. It can cover up to 25kw/75nm per cylinder and is used in models like the x16d, x18d and x25d (exept the f10 model after 2011)​
OL stands for upper-perfomance, the cylinder path is honed several times, it has forged connecting rods and the bearings of the rods and crankshaft are sputtered bearing. It can cover up to 35kw/100nm and is used in models like x20d, x30d.​
TOP is for high performance, including a special treated crankshaft as well as laser-treated cylinder-paths. With this it is possible to increase injection-pressure and rated speed. This cylinders are used in models like x23d, 525d (after 2011) and x35d/x40d.​
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Through supercharging you can give any amount of power to a engine, but it will not be able to handle it. So when you think your 118i with its 170hp could do way more, but the stupid people at BMW are just to lazy to get more power out of that engine let me tell you: a 118i is capable of over 300hp, even keeping all emissions in the green zone, but he won't make that for long.​
Basically in the automotive industry you can say:​
not everything is at it seems​
wenn there is a way to save €, it will be done​
espacially in the automovie industry many facts from media or magazines/books are incorrect​
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Regarding damage, these mostly occure long time after the tuning. Usually after 50k-80k km the problems start. Many people do not own the cars anymore by that time, and the subsequent owner doesn't know about the bad suprise that might happen. If a damage is found in the repair shop, they often just change the part and thats it. Often nobody suspects a tuning chip as the main reason (you know.. tuners say "its all good man!)....​
 
this always comes to my mind on bmw remapping
This quote is mostly nonesense tbh. Also, after 50-80k the issues happen? I mean, that is quite a margin of error and not out of the realms of when issues occur regardless of mapping.
 
If engines designed for 200K - initial acceleration on a piston is probably the principal wear - the square of the power, so if you increase power by 25% you'd increase wear 50% ..
so you've reduced engine life - my man maths
 
Got my polo 1.2 TDI remapped and it is noticeably more responsive and overall drives better.
I was in a forced position however as I needed to delete the DPF and EGR as both were faulty, and a remap, a large drill & gutting of the dpf and an EGR blanking plate later and it's running perfectly. Depends on your needs though I guess. I probably wouldn't for your needs.
 
Few years back work had a couple of vans remapped for "economy" it also improved the performance, when they were moved on one had 320k miles and the other 288k miles, with no issues we just kept them serviced.

One was a VW transporter 1.9 90hp PDtdi think the remap took it to 120hp, it made the van much more useable and responsive, just pulling out of junctions and keeping up with traffic didn't feel like a chore.

The other van was a 1.6hdi Berlingo, 75hp it was severely restricted by the ECU felt like it had no turbo, and was verging unsafe to drive, the remap took it to 90hp but the responsiveness was vastly improved throughout the rpm range made it so much nicer.

Both occasions the cost was justified.

Fuel was saved because you weren't having to ring the neck out of them to get them moving.

I wouldn't listen to the naysayers who say manufacturers spend millions of pounds on development bla bla bla... Yes they do, but they also purposely put in restrictions to make you spend more money.

A lot of remaps are just taking the restrictions out. Take the 2 examples above, the engines on the hdi were available in 75hp, 90hp & 110hp, the 75 & 90 had the same turbos, the 110 was seperately by a slightly larger turbo, everything else was the same.

The VW tdi engine was a similar story.

I strongly advise to avoid "tuning boxes" these are just snake oil and trick the ECU into thinking it has different sensor readings.so more fuel is added.

Also be wary of "dodgy" tuning companies, the likes of black code are to be avoided at all costs.

My most recommended would be Celtic tuning, but then there are vehicle brand specific ones that I would rate over and above anything else, for VW group diesel cars dark side developments would be the ones to go for.

Avoid avoid avoid generic companies like quantum remaps, black code etc, they are just other maps copied badly, they pretend they have mapping experts, they don't there just a generic map company with little knowledge when problems occur.
 
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Got my polo 1.2 TDI remapped and it is noticeably more responsive and overall drives better.
I was in a forced position however as I needed to delete the DPF and EGR as both were faulty, and a remap, a large drill & gutting of the dpf and an EGR blanking plate later and it's running perfectly. Depends on your needs though I guess. I probably wouldn't for your needs.

Didn’t fancy a new DPF and EGR?… :D

I don’t enjoy being behind people who clearly have a DPF Delete, EGR etc - Literally can taste the fumes, I’ll always hang back or overtake when possible.

Oh and those burning stupid amounts of oil, you know full well they are aware but just continue to ensure the driver behind can’t breathe.

Not pleasant :(
 
I thought about remapping my T5, there is an official Polestar tune I can get for silly money or cheap as chips 3rd party one.

Polestar tune brings it from 227 to 250 BHP which is quite healthy (almost) 10% gain. Torque from 236 to 273.

The only thing putting me off is the extra load it put on the drive train, considering the car’s age now.

Polestar is Volvo's own in house tuning arm, if it were to put excessive amounts of negative strain on the drivetrain they wouldn't offer it.

Clutches do wear though so worst case scenario it will highlight an already worn clutch
 
I kind of thought mine was remapped when I bought it as I’d test driven a near identical model a couple of days earlier and this one pulled very much stronger through the gears than the first car, my mechanic is pretty confident it’s an ex police car as it’s apparently got bigger brakes and different suspension to what it should have along with wiring behind the front grill that’s no longer connected - although a D5 Volvo wouldn’t have been a traffic car (they used the T5 petrol for that) maybe it was previously an undercover vehicle or something?

It's a myth about police cars being mapped.

I'd rather wager that the map put on your d5 is a poor map put on the car, or it could just be the pure dog delete map which doesn't provide any performance gain.

Who was the mapper, was it just some bloke in a van with a kess V2?
 
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