Remote access via 3G

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Is it possible to connect to a remote device that is connected to a 3G connection using a pc?

I currently have access to the device via ssh, telnet and vnc via my home wireless and usb. I want to be able to extend my access to the device. I believe this is the interface its using.

ppp0
Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol
inet addr:10.176.158.109 P-t-P:10.64.64.64 Mask:255.2
UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metri
RX packets:211 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:238 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:3
RX bytes:121262 (118.4 KiB) TX bytes:34451 (33.6 KiB)

The other 2 available are wlan0 and usb0.

I have tried using the ip address shown on http://www.whatsmyip.org/ but this doesnt connect although i can ping/tracert it.
 
It's showing 10.176.158.109 as the local address and whatsmyip is showing is public address - the device is NAT'd. I'm guessing this is T-Mobile 3G connection as I recall having a similar address with them.

Even is it's not T-Mobile you MIGHT be able to get a real external IP by changing the APN you use. I know at least 1 provider does a public IP APN but can't recall which one.
 
The device is an Amazon Kindle which uses Amazon Whispernet which is free. Im not sure how i would change the APN.

In the UK, Amazon have signed an agreement with Vodafone.

http://cow.neondragon.net/index.php/amazons-kindle-offers-free-worldwide-3g-web-browsing

All Vodafone UK SIM cards are set up to use a public access APN named ‘Internet’. This, as the name suggests, will provide an internet connection. We can supplement or replace the public APN settings with a private APN exclusively for your organisation.

http://www.vodafone-dataworld.co.uk/default.aspx?pageId=41

How would changing the APN allow me to access the device?
 
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AAISP offer data sims with real public IP's (just a single one at the moment, though routed blocks and IPv6 should be working soon).

Other than that there are a couple of other specialist providers that have some funny arrangements for mapped public IP's though you'll pay about £25 / Gb for data use and the last ones I looked into had 24 month contracts.

There are various ways around the issue by using things like a VPN tunnel between the device and either somewhere that will give it a real IP or onto the local network with the PC you want to try the remote connection from. Getting that to work though will obviously depend on the capabilities of the Kindle :)
 
any reason why? :)

TBH It probably isn't so much of an issue of getting the kindle to use another APN its more going to be the issue getting one set up ;)

That costs quite a bit, and even then getting the carriers to give you static or even public IP's over it can be a right PITA from what I've been told by those who have looked into it.
 
Why not use something like logmein or teamviewer to remote desktop to your home computer, then you can work from that just as if you were at home.
 
Why not use something like logmein or teamviewer to remote desktop to your home computer, then you can work from that just as if you were at home.

That is not even remotely close to what the OP is trying to achieve.

He wants to be able to SSH/Telnet into his Kindle when it is connected via 3G.
 
AAISP offer data sims with real public IP's (just a single one at the moment, though routed blocks and IPv6 should be working soon).

Other than that there are a couple of other specialist providers that have some funny arrangements for mapped public IP's though you'll pay about £25 / Gb for data use and the last ones I looked into had 24 month contracts.

There are various ways around the issue by using things like a VPN tunnel between the device and either somewhere that will give it a real IP or onto the local network with the PC you want to try the remote connection from. Getting that to work though will obviously depend on the capabilities of the Kindle :)

Im open to any ideas at this stage. The kindle is limited to what can be installed on it. I have to copy any files across and then use command line to install it. As long as i can access the device from anywhere the method doesnt matter.

Why not use something like logmein or teamviewer to remote desktop to your home computer, then you can work from that just as if you were at home.

The kindle uses Linux so i doubt these would work and secondly i only have access to command line to make changes/install/configure stuff.

Im attempting to gain access to the kindle remotely as part of my dissertation. It would be ideal if i could gain access via 3G which would then allow me to use SSH and copy/edit data on it. If its going to cost money then i doubt i will do it.

Firstly i want to find out if it can be done and if so how. I would need to document how it could be done if im not going to do it.
 
The AAISP SIM cards aren't that expensive:

£10 one of fee for the SIM
£2 / Month for the Service
£0.25 / MB for Data

http://aaisp.net.uk/telecoms-mobile.html

If it was just for little bits of data and SSH no reason it should cost you more than a few quid a month and it would be by far the easiest way to get a real IP onto the device and give yourself remote access.

I'll folllow that advice however with the caveat that 1) I don't own a kindle therefore 2) I have no idea how easy it would be to replace the SIM or change the device settings to use another APN (though supposedly the AAISP SIM cards can work with whatever APN name you enter).

A cheaper and possibly altogether easier way would be to see if you can get a VPN client of some sort installed onto the Kindle and have it dial in to a home network where you can then remote access it from.
 
wij, you have given me some great info there, thanks.

Changing the sim is the easy part, configuring it would be more difficult.

I think i might have to go down the road of VPN access.
 
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