Remote viewable CCTV camera?

Energize · 3 Mar 2017 at 00:37

Em3bbs said:
You pay for cloud storage:

https://nest.com/camera/meet-nest-cam/#whats-nest-aware

10-day video history
$10 a month or $100 a year for your first camera

$5 a month ($50 a year) for each additional camera

30-day video history
$30 a month or $300 a year for your first camera

$15 a month ($150 a year) for each additional camera

Not sure if it costs different in the UK but that's pretty damn expensive!

Wow it's cheaper just to get broken into, home insurance isn't that expensive.

tlrBeta · 4 Mar 2017 at 07:49

Energize said:
Wow it's cheaper just to get broken into, home insurance isn't that expensive.

I was demo'd the system a few weeks ago, its very impressive and i believe it was cheaper then the US rates above

Energize · 4 Mar 2017 at 11:04

Meh it's not going to prevent a theft so you're just going to be out more money at the end of the day. Home CCTV is a bit of a false economy. The money would be better spent on making your house burglar proof.

Dis86 · 4 Mar 2017 at 11:09

Energize said:
Meh it's not going to prevent a theft so you're just going to be out more money at the end of the day. Home CCTV is a bit of a false economy. The money would be better spent on making your house burglar proof.

If it's visible it can certainly act as a deterrent. Also it's incredibly difficult to make something burglar proof. What you can do though is make it so it's just not worth their time and effort.

tres · 4 Mar 2017 at 18:07

Any IP/wifi camera. They are very, very cheap. I have one that cost £20, has memory card slot, motion detection, movement, night vision etc and I log in and move it around remotely from my phone

Em3bbs · 4 Mar 2017 at 18:31

tlrBeta said:
I was demo'd the system a few weeks ago, its very impressive and i believe it was cheaper then the US rates above

If that's the case then it's a first for Google, I've never known them to price anything in the UK cheaper than it is in the US.

Kenai · 4 Mar 2017 at 18:56

If he just wants to check if his dog is ok or something, there are a million and one £20 cameras on Amazon and eBay that will be adequate for that sort of task.

BDEE · 4 Mar 2017 at 18:58

Checkout the FOSCAM range.

I have one and control it from an app. Great cameras and not too pricey.

Meridian · 5 Mar 2017 at 09:36

It's not difficult to do, but my understanding is that opening any system up for remote access leaves a truck-sized hole in your computer security. Mine, for example, requires me to allow unplug-and-pray if I want to upload to the cloud or remote access. Since most such cameras use a common port, and usually have a hard-coded access (hidden from the user, but known via the internet) then I'm waiting until they get a LOT more secure.

Hyburnate · 5 Mar 2017 at 10:26

Meridian said:
It's not difficult to do, but my understanding is that opening any system up for remote access leaves a truck-sized hole in your computer security. Mine, for example, requires me to allow unplug-and-pray if I want to upload to the cloud or remote access. Since most such cameras use a common port, and usually have a hard-coded access (hidden from the user, but known via the internet) then I'm waiting until they get a LOT more secure.

And that's why I like Hikvision. Operate on a port that is far from common (I'm doing it right now actually) and a nice strong non-default username preferably a random string and a dashlane generated password which is 12 chars long

As said above however, it is only a deterrent. I'm currently downloading and reviewing footage from a break in around the corner from the CCTV cameras, they did try the house the CCTV is on but were unsuccessful. I'm not saying much more because it's currently with the police but this house in particular has about £4000 worth of cameras on it.

Energize · 5 Mar 2017 at 13:47

Allowing remote access doesn't give you security issues if you restrict access to an ip address range.

Running on a non standard port as above though doesn't do anything by itself because port scans are so fast these days.

Hyburnate · 5 Mar 2017 at 20:47

Energize said:
Allowing remote access doesn't give you security issues if you restrict access to an ip address range.

Running on a non standard port as above though doesn't do anything by itself because port scans are so fast these days.

It doesn't do anything just as having CCTV doesn't. But it's a measure against it. Hikvision is so popular that people will target its default ports using it's username and using rainbow tables for passwords or something similar.