Removing the front numberplate

laissez-faire · 25 Apr 2007 at 18:20

Given the LTI20.20 speed cameras on the M6 and A74, it occured to me that I could simply remove my front number plate. As I understand the maximum penalty for no front number plate is just a £30 fixed penalty with no points. Obviously if I were stopped by an actual cop then I'd get done for speeding and for no numberplate, but cops don't tend to pull people over for doing 79 on an empty motorway!

fini · 25 Apr 2007 at 18:23

It can pick you up moving away from it as well though - so they can just measure the speed once you've gone past.

fini

laissez-faire · 25 Apr 2007 at 18:51

fini said:
It can pick you up moving away from it as well though - so they can just measure the speed once you've gone past.

fini

They can only ever be facing one way though, so whilst you are correct that it can get you from behind, by then you will have driven past it so you have plenty of time to slow down.

SB118 · 25 Apr 2007 at 19:02

laissez-faire said:
They can only ever be facing one way though, so whilst you are correct that it can get you from behind, by then you will have driven past it so you have plenty of time to slow down.

I've seen vans on a local dual carriageway with both side windows open, catching drivers on roads going towards the van from both directions.

SB118 · 25 Apr 2007 at 19:03

laissez-faire said:
Given the LTI20.20 speed cameras on the M6 and A74, it occured to me that I could simply remove my front number plate. As I understand the maximum penalty for no front number plate is just a £30 fixed penalty with no points. Obviously if I were stopped by an actual cop then I'd get done for speeding and for no numberplate, but cops don't tend to pull people over for doing 79 on an empty motorway!

And you'll be happy to pay out 7 x £30 fixed penalties when every traffic copper pulls you and tickets you ....

laissez-faire · 25 Apr 2007 at 19:15

SB118 said:
I've seen vans on a local dual carriageway with both side windows open, catching drivers on roads going towards the van from both directions.

That still wouldn't matter. They need to aim the gun at the numberplate as it has the RI2.0 crystals in it. So they wouldn't be able to measure the speed of the oncoming car, by the time they point it at the back you could have slowed down.

Lowe · 25 Apr 2007 at 19:25

They aim at the headlights - better reflective properties than the plates. If you're being an obvious idiot, they'd just radio ahead and get a traffic car to tug you. Not really worth it tbh...

fini · 25 Apr 2007 at 19:39

they're not supposed to aim it at the headlights - I swear both manufacturers and ACPO guidelines say point at the numberplate - it's stops any sort of drift/deflection.

fini

Dogbreath · 25 Apr 2007 at 21:52

Number plate should be a better target as the reflective material works like a corner cube reflector, i.e. bounces light back in the same direction it came from.

InvaderGIR · 25 Apr 2007 at 22:24

On the topic of no front plate, what if you have an american import? Do you still get fined?

InvG

[TW]Fox · 25 Apr 2007 at 22:30

InvaderGIR said:
On the topic of no front plate, what if you have an american import? Do you still get fined?

InvG

Yes.

Raymond Lin · 25 Apr 2007 at 22:34

[TW]Fox said:
Yes.

Gibbo better watch out

pinkaardvark · 26 Apr 2007 at 01:27

I'd laugh if you got tugged, which would then go on record and the evidence could be used to match all the speed camera pictures with no numberplate you had gained.

Business Man · 26 Apr 2007 at 02:26

There was a web site that sold a device that could rotate number plates. you have a dummy plate and your real plate back to back of each another. it would fit on both the font and back of your car undetected. from a push of a button your plates would rotate. it was just like some thing from a james bond movie. :eek:

Zip · 26 Apr 2007 at 05:20

Business Man said:
There was a web site that sold a device that could rotate number plates. you have a dummy plate and your real plate back to back of each another. it would fit on both the font and back of your car undetected. from a push of a button your plates would rotate. it was just like some thing from a james bond movie.

Transporter Actually

touch · 26 Apr 2007 at 05:24

Zip said:
Transporter Actually

James bond as well im sure, pretty much any cool film car has it.

(Other than Lady Penelope's pink roller, which has a numberplate that rotates out of the way, but instead of another numberplate, it has a machine gun behind it...PEW PEW PEW!)

Fireskull · 26 Apr 2007 at 07:51

Lool why dont i just remove my number plate on the bike and ride around like ghost rider and only get £30 for no number plate :rolleyes:

task · 26 Apr 2007 at 08:53

they must aim at something other than the numberplate...

One of my old Land Rovers was running pressed alluminium plates with a plain black plastic insert, these were non-reflective. This didn't stop them giving me 3 points for speeding.

kaiowas · 26 Apr 2007 at 09:01

Zip said:
Transporter Actually

pfffft, kids today.

Lowe · 26 Apr 2007 at 09:01

fini said:
they're not supposed to aim it at the headlights - I swear both manufacturers and ACPO guidelines say point at the numberplate - it's stops any sort of drift/deflection.

fini

Guidelines are exactly that... guidelines.

Why do you think people are always moaning about laser speed detection devices?