Renting with animals - why is it almost impossible?

adam cool dude said:
That is a stupid rule if true. Whole point of going camping is taking pets with you. At least with us!
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Not a stupid rule. My kids (4 and 7) don't like unruly dogs bounding all over the place. Would put me off going to a campsite if they did allow dogs. So damned if you do, damned if you don't, from the campsite owners perspective! Some people just don't like/don't want pets all over the place, even if you do.
 
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nightwish said:
Trouble is, you don't seem willing to compromise on much. Pets are staying, can't/won't move, need 3 bedrooms, etc. Your choice, but it's costing you a lot of money. Seems like you can afford it, and don't mind spending the money, which would be fine, except that you want to buy a house, but can't afford to. So you're left scrimping and saving toward a depost while paying through the nose for rent (and I guess the pets can't be cheap either). You're making it tough on yourself I guess is what I'm saying. Sometimes making a temporary change/compromise/sacrifice can help you to achieve your longer-term goals.
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What you’re saying is fair. And perhaps you’re right.

I’m not sure what comprises we could make though? Getting rid of the pets is not an option and nonnegotiable.

So we back at square one?
 
Priapus said:
What you’re saying is fair. And perhaps you’re right.

I’m not sure what comprises we could make though? Getting rid of the pets is not an option and nonnegotiable.

So we back at square one?
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Find somewhere cheaper. You said yourself you don't need 5 bedroom detached. That, plus move further North. Cut your rent in half. You can drive or get public transport to see your folks. Save like demons for as long as it takes. Then you can review your options. Maybe set your sights a little lower for your first house. Getting on the ladder seems like the important thing, for both your finances and your quality of life.

My 4-bed semi house in the midlands is worth £240k-ish and is more than enough for my family of 4. Mortgage is £550 a month. Put that in your calculator and see how much quicker you could get to your target deposit! I understand folks are attached to where they grew up, and/or where their friends and family are, but it can be really really expensive to do that in the South!
 
Priapus said:
I do. That’s not very respectful and I wouldn’t want a tenant to do that to me, if I was a landlord. So I wouldn’t do that.
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What if a person was desperate for a house and did what they had to do to get a roof over their head? If the tenants and pets don't damage your property, their shouldn't be a problem.

Terminal_Boy said:
That sounds like a great way to get evicted.
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I can't say I've heard of anybody being evicted for having a pet in their property before. Google would probably prove me wrong, though.
 
nightwish said:
Not a stupid rule. My kids (4 and 7) don't like unruly dogs bounding all over the place. Would put me off going to a campsite if they did allow dogs. So damned if you do, damned if you don't, from the campsite owners perspective! Some people just don't like/don't want pets all over the place, even if you do.
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I must have been very lucky then as I have never been to a campsite that bans dogs.
 
Quartz said:
Speaking as a landlord myself it's a cost issue. I am, like many, allergic to cats, so I'm going to have to have my property deep cleaned when the current tenants (who have a cat) leave. I may have to have the place re-carpeted. This is extra expense.
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I can see that point and, admittedly, it's nothing I'd thought of. So if a tenant with pets wants to move in, agree that you will be taking the cleaning money out of their deposit when they leave. Or even get them to pay it separately, before moving in.
 
darael said:
What if a person was desperate for a house and did what they had to do to get a roof over their head? If the tenants and pets don't damage your property, their shouldn't be a problem.


I can't say I've heard of anybody being evicted for having a pet in their property before. Google would probably prove me wrong, though.
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Moving pets in under cover of darkness so that the landlord doesn't know would be grounds for eviction! If I was in the landlord's position, I'd kick you out for sheer cheek/dishonesty. TBH, someone who'd do that is probably going to be trouble in all sorts of other ways too.
 
nightwish said:
Find somewhere cheaper. You said yourself you don't need 5 bedroom detached. That, plus move further North. Cut your rent in half. You can drive or get public transport to see your folks. Save like demons for as long as it takes. Then you can review your options. Maybe set your sights a little lower for your first house. Getting on the ladder seems like the important thing, for both your finances and your quality of life.

My 4-bed semi house in the midlands is worth £240k-ish and is more than enough for my family of 4. Mortgage is £550 a month. Put that in your calculator and see how much quicker you could get to your target deposit! I understand folks are attached to where they grew up, and/or where their friends and family are, but it can be really really expensive to do that in the South!
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We initially were only considering 4 bed detach places at £450k.

We are now looking at 3 bed semi detached and even end of terrace places between £250k and 300k.

So you’re right that we need to compromise on the first house we buy and we are.

It doesn’t change much for us though. Buying at £240k still means saving £24k min deposit I believe. No one will do 95% LTV.

So we are still “stuck” here for at least 18 months I think. So in the short term not much we can do. It’s why we looked for a cheaper rental to realize the savings now to boost towards a deposit.

Thanks for the insight though into your situation and making me reconsider our situation on comprising.
 
darael said:
I can see that point and, admittedly, it's nothing I'd thought of. So if a tenant with pets wants to move in, agree that you will be taking the cleaning money out of their deposit when they leave. Or even get them to pay it separately, before moving in.
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As can I. But as mentioned here I think because demand is so high — landlords have no issues finding tenants without pets and thus always prefer that route.
 
nightwish said:
Moving pets in under cover of darkness so that the landlord doesn't know would be grounds for eviction! If I was in the landlord's position, I'd kick you out for sheer cheek/dishonesty. TBH, someone who'd do that is probably going to be trouble in all sorts of other ways too.
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I see what you mean, but I'm not sure lying about a pet would mean that somebody might be trouble in other ways.
 
Priapus said:
Yup exactly and then good luck finding other rentals when referencing comes back that you broke trust like this.

It’s just not worth it.
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It might be.

It's easier to ask for forgiveness than it is for permission :D. Considering it'll take quite a while for you to be evicted think of the money you could have saved up in that time ;). It's not like you have to build trust with any future landlords once you've bought your house.

The game's rigged, so bend the rules.
 
Banning pets should be banned IMO, just as how landlords cannot refuse to rent out to applicants receiving Housing Benefit these days.
 
Priapus said:
This is a wild take.
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Only if you've suffered the boiled frog syndrome of accepting the primacy of property owners over the rights of citizens.

It's entirely reasonable to demand that people should be allowed pets if they so choose. I simply won't accept any argument against.

And I say that as someone who really doesn't even like pets. I particularly view people who have as many as the OP as probably having some form of mental illness or emotional deficiency. But I absolutely defend their right to add to their pet collectathon.

E: oh, you are the OP. Well I defend your right to collect em all, Dr Doolittle.
 
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