Replacing my car.

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Hi all,

This might be a bit of a rambling thread so bear with me.

Over the last few months I've been considering replacing my car. The main reason for this is that I'd like something a bit newer, with similar or better performance and the same or higher levels of kit. Basically, an 'evolution' of what my car currently offers me. I'm also thinking that I should make the switch now whilst my car is actually still worth actual money (approx. £2.5k) and hasn't degenerated into a heap of rust and mechanical/electrical failures.

However, herein lies the problem. My car is an excellent all-rounder. So what do I replace it with?

I've been thinking about what I want from a car, and really I just want something capable enough to handle what my life throws at it whilst still having a reasonable dollop of petrolhead 'interest' and 'excitement'. So here's a list of my requirements, in a roughly-prioritised order:

- Well-equipped (my car has climate, bluetooth with audio streaming, xenons, heated electric seats, and electric everything else, and ideally I'd like at least these features to be present or retrofittable). I just want gadgets really :D

- Reliable. I don't want to be having to spend weekends (or hundreds at a garage) fixing myriad issues that might arise from an older performance car, i.e. an Audi S4 or a BMW M3. But at the same time I'm not going to delude myself in expecting Toyota Corolla levels of reliability from a performance saloon.

- Plenty of grunt. I don't want anything much slower than what I've got now. I know it's a very vague performance metric, but a 0-60 time in the order of 7s (or better) is preferred. To put things into perspective, I'd consider my car as having "plenty of grunt" although I know it's not high up on the overall performance car scale!

- Spacious and comfortable. I don't [or, at least I don't think I] want a small hot hatch.

- Newer (as new as possible) and lower mileage than my current car (04, 114k).


I'm thinking of spending up to £10k.


There are literally a couple of cars that I can think of which fit my criteria that I can see myself owning, and that's the Skoda Octavia VRS and the newer Mondeo 2.5T/2.0T Titanium X. But the problem with the Octavia is that I want Nav and the 'maxidot' display which supposedly much better-facilitate bluetooth functions and offer a generally improved infotainment experience, so it's not a case of knowing there's a high standard spec. The problem with the Mondeos is the rarity. I very much like the idea of a 2.0T Ecoboost Powershift Titanium X Sport (what a mouthful) but there isn't exactly a plentiful supply of them, and they're very expensive at the moment.

Other possibilities - which don't appeal to me as much as the above - include:
- Lexus IS250 SE-L
- Lexus GSxx SE-L
- Insignia 2.0T/2.8T Elite Nav (I know...)

Of course, the alternative is to just keep my car and run it into the ground whilst waiting for the above options to depreciate, but I do fancy a change, and I do fancy the idea of a turbocharged engine with tuning potential :).

There must be something better than what I have now, that matches my criteria.

If I didn't need a car to get to work then I'd probably buy something a bit more 'out there' like an E46 M3 or a Honda S2000 or whatever. "Sports cars" such as the 350Z and Z4 and the S2000 have crossed my mind but I think I'd get annoyed with the lack of practicality available from either.

It doesn't help that in the case of many cars there are 10000 diesel variants for sale nationwide, and 4 petrol variants. I don't want a diesel.

Thoughts?
 
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Thoughts? Powershift is awful apparently.

325i from 2008ish will be under £10k and under 7s 0-60. No idea about the toys on them though.
 
I think i'd keep two(three now) options in mind

Looking for a facelift VRS with the maxidot and be ready to jump when one appears.

Keep an eye out for a petrol Exeo estate, and jumping as soon as one appears. (Dynamics not brilliant, but a hell of a lot of car for the money)

Consider spending less and pick up a 2.5t Mondeo with the spec you're after, I think the 2.0t prices are sitting a little artificially high at the moment personally so would be avoiding until either more become available and or they drop a little.

E91 325/330i M sports were sitting at funny money for a well specced car when I bought the Fn2, I really quite fancied one but I couldn't find a nice looking example for under £12k or so (perhaps I was being unrealistic with age/mileage mind you), which was not a sum I was prepared to pay for any E9x cooking model

Lexus make lovely cars, but I don't think i'd want an IS that would fall in budget and not sure I've ever driven that model of GS, but one thing they generally aren't is exciting to drive in any way shape or form.

edit: added a third option
 
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It'd likely be about 8 years old though - certainly too old for me to be spending £10k on

It's not you who set the criteria though, or buying the car. They could easily tick all the boxes required by the OP.

If the cars are worth that money, that's what they sell for. If they aren't, they don't. I know if I had the criteria the OP was asking for, with that budget, the 335i would be VERy near the top of my list.
 
I'll put it this way

If you had a 2004 car worth say £2.5k, where part of the reason you wanted to move it on was to try and avoid monthly tinkering, would you want to spend another £7.5k plus probable monthly warranty to move into something 2 years newer (albeit with fantastic performance)?
 
Thought about a 2.0TSI DSG Passat CC?

Not got the silly tax or MPG of mine, yet they offer good performance, look for a GT someone has loaded with kit, will be hard to find, but lots of car for the cash.
 
I'll put it this way

If you had a 2004 car worth say £2.5k, where part of the reason you wanted to move it on was to try and avoid monthly tinkering, would you want to spend another £7.5k plus probable monthly warranty to move into something 2 years newer (albeit with fantastic performance)?

No, I probably wouldn't make that specific move, as I'd be trying to get a 335d, having had one before and knowing their potential.

However, if diesel was out the question, yes, I would consider that change. The 335i has the performance to match its price tag, unlike probably any other petrol 3 series out there.

Now the OP also states performance as a top priority, and at under 10k the 335i must be classed as a performance bargain. And as he isn't scared off by a bit of tuning, there must be very little else out there capable of getting so close to 400 bhp with this level of comfort.

Of course, the Passat cc will be very nice too. But at nearly 150 bhp for a reg plate a couple years newer?
 
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Thanks for the input so far, guys. I'll try and address some points:


Whilst I don't have anything against these cars, I think the design is a bit old to be spending that sort of money on, and it's bloody difficult to find one with a decent spec.


Facelift ST-3 :)
I'd consider that a downgrade in many ways I'm afraid!


I'll put it this way

If you had a 2004 car worth say £2.5k, where part of the reason you wanted to move it on was to try and avoid monthly tinkering, would you want to spend another £7.5k plus probable monthly warranty to move into something 2 years newer (albeit with fantastic performance)?

This is kinda what puts me off from having a 335i at the top of my list. Much as I do like them, I don't think I can afford one new enough and with a low enough mileage for the warranty which I'd probably be very wary of running the car without!

I do like the 325/330 coupes though, so I'm not going to rule them out completely, however if I bought a 325 I'd probably always be thinking "What if I'd gone with a 330 or 335...".


http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201407035514010

Seems like the best option to me, with money left over to send it to Collins for a stage 2 ;)

That's very nice and I do keep coming across it on AT searches.



Thought about a 2.0TSI DSG Passat CC?

Not got the silly tax or MPG of mine, yet they offer good performance, look for a GT someone has loaded with kit, will be hard to find, but lots of car for the cash.

It's certainly an option and I'd happily have even a 3.6! Well-specced ones seem mega-rare though :(


Ooo look what I found.

Want.

Passat R36

I like these.


Hence why I think the Mondeo or Skoda are better options

This is my thinking also!
 
I don't get the hence part? My argument was completely contradictory to what you are saying.

Anyway, yes, that Mondeo does look nice. And yes, I do like a VRS, so I would also be happy with either of them. But if I had that budget, and wanted a sporty petrol, as I said, 335i would at least get a look in.

This one for example : http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif.../radius/1500/advert-type/Classified?logcode=p

OK, not an M-Sport, but a 2008 (so 4 years newer), leather & nav and adaptive xenons. And reasonable miles for cheaper warranty. Could do a LOT worse for his budget.
 
You were talking about a Passat cc which I hadn't even acknowledged...

That 335 does look quite nice actually, bar the se seats but there'll be compromise somewhere. You must know fine well that its not the norm to find cars of that age, owners and mileage at the kind of price. I can't see history mentioned actually, but you'd like to think a one owner car had it
 
That is nice. It's a bit... Bland to look at (but then aren't most cars that I'm looking at? :D ), but in a way I find it highly amusing that a regular-looking 3 Series can have over 300bhp :D

I'm not sure I've got the balls to hand over £10k+ to a private individual though.. Rightly or wrongly.
 
Fair enough. But it's what's available at time of looking. And there it is. I would jump at that one if I was looking right now for that sort of motor. Alas, I'm looking for a Discovery instead.

There are a couple e92 335i's in his budget with decent miles too, but they are 2006 as expected.
 
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