Reported: 10 Killed in US Batman Premiere

[shorttricky]

I blame whoever it was that decided to take children's comics and turn them into films for the adult market. The original Joker was a mischievous petty criminal not a murdering psychopath like the one played by Heath Ledger. The Joker from the Dark Knight era seems to be based more on Jigsaw from the Saw movies than the one from the Cesar Romero/Jack Nicholson days.

Had Holmes based his alter ego on the original joker the worst he would have done is filled the auditorium with laughing gas, skipped in and nicked people's wallets instead of unleashing a rampage of bullets and death.

What next, McDonalds changing the Hamburglar from a cheeky scamster who steals hamburgers into a schizophrenic serial killer that goes around at night smothering children with pillows?

Actually, the original Joker (Batman #1, 1940) was a murdering psychopath, right up until the comics code authority stepped somewhere around the 50s - that's where the Adam West Batman series stems from.

Neal Adams and Dennis O'Neill returned him to being a murdering psychopath in the early 70s, which he has remained right up to present day.

Amazing it's took this long for someone to snap really . It's almost like they're completed unrelated.

 

[Pestilence]

You might want to read this, this guy pretty much makes the same point as I originally did

http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddes.../jul/25/modern-mythology-batman-sick-universe

It's just an empty musing. Not trying to be offensive to you or anything, but I think the standpoint is complete nonsense, and logical fallacy more than anything. The world of Batman is historically a dark one. Just because it became a rock-'em-sock-'em pastel-swathed kids' world in 60s television doesn't mean it should have stayed that way.

The comics were already being far more brutal and violent than anything we've seen on-screen before Nolan even picked up a camera. The mythology and representation of Batman hasn't somehow been tainted by a "modern" bloodlust.

 

[antijoke]

'MERICA

No offence to anyone on here but America is such a retarded country:

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/07/24/573441/uninsured-aurora-2-million-medical-bill/?mobile=nc

What are you trying to get at here?

That because the guy was shot and now faces a $2 million dollar medical bill.....something should be magically done to ensure he doesn't have to pay it?

Yes it is really tragic what happened to him, but he doesn't have medical insurance. That's the land he lives in and one would assume a decision he made.

One would imagine through various channels he will get looked after what with the publicity of this event, but it still does not change the fact he didn't have medical insurance.

sounds harsh, but it's how it is. No need for 'merica/America is a retarded country comments.

 

[Glaucus]

Why is he being charged with 12 cases of first degree murder and 12 case of murder with extreme indifference.

Why the difference?

 

[OhEsEcks]

Why is he being charged with 12 cases of first degree murder and 12 case of murder with extreme indifference.

Why the difference?

First degree is planned. Second degree is not planned. If he's nuts, the indifference / second degree charge can stick whereas he could walk from a first degree charge. Or something like that.

 

[FlapR]

What are you trying to get at here?

That because the guy was shot and now faces a $2 million dollar medical bill.....something should be magically done to ensure he doesn't have to pay it?

Yes it is really tragic what happened to him, but he doesn't have medical insurance. That's the land he lives in and one would assume a decision he made.

One would imagine through various channels he will get looked after what with the publicity of this event, but it still does not change the fact he didn't have medical insurance.

sounds harsh, but it's how it is. No need for 'merica/America is a retarded country comments.

Just seen your reply. Yeah why should he have to pay $2 million in medical bills because some nut case went on a mass murder spree. If he falls over drunk and breaks his arm then fair enough, but its not like were even talking about a manageable amount of money here...its 2 MILLION DOLLARS. He probably won't be able to pay that off in his entire lifetime. In situations like this the government should cover everything.

 

[MADMAN]

they need to amp up more security.... 1 film can cause utter madness

 

[doodah]

Thread revival. The trial started last night, ended up watching a bit. The prosecution case felt like an emotive PowerPoint presentation but they do seem to have a good case; the effort that went into planning the attack - I am struggling to see how it can be argued he was insane and didn't know right from wrong. The Telegraph are following it quite extensively.

 

[Redz]

Holy thread bump Batman

 

[doodah]

Why? Because of the planning?

They are trying to say he was unhinged, balmy, lacking sanity who "on that night lost a lifelong battle with mental illness".

Or that he carried out weeks of meticulous planning - writing in his notebook which was the best way to take out lots of people, was declared sane at the time by two court-ordered shrinks.

It's hard to see all of those months of planning weren't cold and calculated, rather than him suddenly just snapping. I have yet to see the opening defense argument yet.

 

[Yaayuh!]

The guy may not be a psychopath but he certainly is a sociopath. But then again, isn't it the psychopath that's more likely to meticulously plan such a thing?

 

[doodah]

The prosecution used these photos to make their case, shouldn't the defense be using them!?