Requesting a bigger raise as a team rather than individually?

[HangTime]

Think about the timing though; Q1 performance is largely irrelevant for a pay rise you were notified of before the end of March, as that will likely all have been agreed end of January / Early Feb or thereabouts, and certainly before the finance department had any concrete figures to work with. Your 2021 pay rise will likely have been driven by 2020 performance.

For reference, 2020 CPI inflation was 0.77% so you've basically been given a pay rise that is double inflation.

 

[booyaka]

The game is this: you look after number 1... always. If your mates or colleagues ever get offended over your actions at work in fulfilling this, they are either not mates, unintelligent, naive and most likely playing the game themselves anyway.

BOOM - 100% agree

Look after number 1 - no one else will. Work mates/colleagues etc etc - all will have their own agendas - Look after yourself.

 

[Ayahuasca]

It's one of the biggest lessons in learning how to ask for what you want in the workplace. That said, I certainly wouldn't be trying to push for a pay rise for my entire team unless I was that embedded in the company it was almost a guarentee.

 

[Basher]

I think if you really want a big pay rise, it's probably best to look for another job - either within the same place or further afield. I've never been that successful asking for more money to do the same job.

 

[Basher]

my wife gpr a 2% pay cut this year for cost savings. You should be damn lucky with any kind of payrise!

2% is poor for the job, but that doesn't mean that others should just be satisfied with anything. It means that everyone should be pushing and proving their value/moving roles to achieve their goals.

 

[Ayahuasca]

I think if you really want a big pay rise, it's probably best to look for another job - either within the same place or further afield. I've never been that successful asking for more money to do the same job.

Yep, my partner has just almost doubled her salary interviewing for 2 new jobs in which she was offered both. As both companies really wanted her they both counter offered on the salary not once but twice, so it shot up from what she was initially offered.

 

[Basher]

Yep, my partner has just almost doubled her salary interviewing for 2 new jobs in which she was offered both. As both companies really wanted her they both counter offered on the salary not once but twice, so it shot up from what she was initially offered.

I see this quite often at work. If we hire internally we're allowed to give a maximum 10% salary increase. If we hire externally there is no limit.

 

[HangTime]

Yeah I heard from someone who used to work for me that one of their reports was offered an internal move to a different department at a given salary, but then HR got wind of it and felt it was too big an increase, I think he got shafted there. Doesn't really make sense to me as a policy, surely it's better to retain talent within the organisation than risk losing it to another company by not paying an appropriate salary. Capping in situ pay rises is one thing (not that I particularly agree with that either) but capping pay changes for moves to different departments/roles doesn't seem that logical.

On the flipside I also had a team member that myself and her direct line manager wanted to promote, agreed what we felt was an appropriate salary etc with her line manager and the divisional director... HR then wanted to give her a *much* bigger raise as part of their [well intentioned] efforts to reduce the gender pay gap (the issue being it didn't really take into account relative seniority and experience). Meanwhile a smaller raise for a male colleague wasn't questioned. In the end we met somewhere in the middle, I think we originally proposed something like a 23% raise, HR proposed 58% raise, ended up at 36%.

 

[dirtychinchilla]

Given the Q1 report my company jus released to us showing that we've ridden the Covid storm extremely well and even managed our best first quarter in six years I feel I'm entitled to feel aggrieved at 1.5%. I'm sorry your wife got a pay cut, I'd recommend she start looking elsewhere.

Indeed, we had the same. No negative impact compared to 2019 figures. Reduced growth, but still very profitable. Sad to hear some businesses are struggling so much.