Soldato
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Titan X Pascal is a beast..
You will be mine one day my pretty...
You will be mine one day my pretty...
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The Guru3D updated results show the 390X getting 92fps but the original test showed 140fps. How is that even possible unless they turned off a performance boosting option just so the results can show Nvidia beating the AMD cards. The new results show the Nvidia cards getting the same fps as the old results but AMD getting far worse...WTF.
Original GURU3D test (Shadow Cache = ON).........................................................Updated GURU3D test - 1080P (Shadow Cache = OFF)
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If shadow cache or other setting for AMD gives a huge performance boost then that should be shown in the benchmarks. Highly dubious benchmarks to say the least. It's like the old Doom benchmarks running OpenGL only when we all know Vulkan gives AMD the best performance.
EDIT: Apparently they did turn off shadow cache for all cards in the updated results, essentially gimping the AMD cards with 8GB. The original test with the 390X rivaling the 1080 is the correct result for AMD. Nvidia drivers are to blame for the current performance and should be improved in another update since the older driver had better performance. Rather poor benchmarking by some sites.
I honestly cannot spend even more time on this article as I need to move on towards next weeks articles. I tested all cards 3x each time with different results. The last batch is considered final and as good as it gets.
The initial fury results you mention being higher FPS in Ultra HD might have had an error from my side. I was playing around with interlace modus and it might have stuck in Ultra HD. However I am not even 100% sure that could have caused the offset. That result set however was re-done and replaced in v2 of the benchmark session.
The game is complicated for testing with so my differentials and anomalies per card. We test with one setting for all graphics card to offer an objective result set. However I recommend you guys play the game with cache off up-to 4 GB cards. This will offer a much better gameplay experience for say R9 Fury cards and for NV the GTX 980 series.
So the current (revision 3) tests as they are online since yesterday are the closest match to performance. It however is a mixed bag of results, but there is nothing I can do about it as it is game-engine related. It is a tricky to test title. As stated in a few weeks we'll have had driver updates and game patches, likely I'll revisit this review then.
No one would go into their drivers to do something that makes the card perform worse.
This is Guru3D editing AMD's drivers to gimp their performance so that nVidia's performance doesn't look as bad as it actually is in comparison to AMD, what they did was deliberately manipulate AMD's settings to drag them down to nVidia's poor level.
For me this just proves these so called reviewers are not independent, in fact they work for nVidia.
Isn't this the same as testing amd cards with gameworks off?
So you honestly think they purposefully gimped performance on AMD to make the 1080 look better? Do you not think the original results were questionable with the 390X smashing the Fury X and miles ahead of the 390?
You get worse!
Its a fake review, the original one, the one he took down was the real one.
It is amusing but it also doesn't help with competition in the market when you have reviewers with this much mindshare pulling stunts like that.
It is amusing but it also doesn't help with competition in the market when you have reviewers with this much mindshare pulling stunts like that.
If a healthy market is what we want we shouldn't be tolerating things like this, we are the ones who pay the price for it in the end.
But the option was turned off for all cards tested, correct?
On or off it makes no difference to nVidia in this, it does to AMD.
Its on by default in AMD's drivers, for an AMD user to get the same lower performance he/she would need go into the driver CP to set the same options Guru3D set.
Why would anyone go into thier drivers to turn off options to make the card much slower?
You just wouldn't.