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Don't understand. You lost me a bit with the link here.
Why shouldn't we import they way another country cooks their food when we eat it?
Don't understand. You lost me a bit with the link here.
Steak tartare is raw beef. Raw meet != food poisoning. Improper handling of raw meet, such as contamination with faeces == food poisoning.
If anyone has been to one of these places, I'd be interested to know the range of meats that can be "self-cooked". It wouldn't surprise me to see them limited to the "safer" meats, like beef or lamb, with meats like chicken and pork being absent.
This reminds me of a place at Charing Cross called the Bring Your Own Club. You bring a bottle of hooch, pay £20 and they come to your table to make you cocktails out of it.
Why on earth would you want to go out for a meal, and pay to cook your own food? Might as well just stay at home and do it for free, surely? Jeez man, restaurants like this sure see people coming! What a clever gimmick!
Who cooks in those scenarios? In the sort of restaurants discussed here, everyone cooks and everyone eats. That in itself means everyone is participating.
There's a Swiss restaurant in Soho I went to a few years back, famous for its fondue but they did two types of beef fondue as well, one in hot oil with beef chunks and one in hot water where the beef was sliced very thinly. There's no problem under cooking the beef as long as you like it rare
Edit: found it - http://www.stmoritz-restaurant.co.uk/
Yeah, that's the place. £20 and a bottle of vodka would probably be the cheapest night out I've had in London.
That website is glorious. Amazing.
To be honest, I don't think they give it to you raw for exactly that reason. More like rare/medium rare and then you do the rest to your liking.
Looking at it, I'm 99% sure the place I went to was Myung Ga. I'd recommend it.
It depends very much on the meat. Chicken flesh, for example, is very much prone to bacterial contamination (see, for example). Since these infections are very often present in the chicken while it still lives, it's not only a case of improper handling - the meat itself can often be a source of disease. The chicken would need to come from a carefully controlled source, AND be properly handled. Very few farmers can reliably declare their poultry to be truly "disease free", as many poultry diseases show no obvious symptoms in the birds themselves.
This is the main reason it's necessary to ensure that chicken is properly cooked. Also a reason why a lawsuit for food-poisoning could occur - even if the responsibility is partially on the diner to ensure that their food is properly cooked, it's also on the restaurant to ensure that the meat they provide to the diner is disease free - something which is incredibly difficult to do.
If anyone has been to one of these places, I'd be interested to know the range of meats that can be "self-cooked". It wouldn't surprise me to see them limited to the "safer" meats, like beef or lamb, with meats like chicken and pork being absent.
To be honest, I don't think they give it to you raw for exactly that reason. More like rare/medium rare and then you do the rest to your liking.
Looking at it, I'm 99% sure the place I went to was Myung Ga. I'd recommend it.